#Is UEdit dying???
27-Jun-87 02:46:04
Sb: #73931-#Is UEdit dying???
Fm: Don Curtis/SYSOP 76703,4321
To: John Draper 76703,4322
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I don't disagree with you as a general statement, but there are some very
complex issues here. Since we have quite a number of PD/Shareware terminal
programs…let's use them as a case in point.
How many users need a terminal program "better" than the offerings we have
here? How many users need a terminal program at all? I think you'll find
a vast difference in those 2 numbers. Now, if a software company produces
a "good" terminal program, but a basic one…one without all the bells and
whistles, they will appeal to those in category 2, but not in category 1
above. Since we have equivalent programs in the DL's (including a
bootstrap program), sales for this basic terminal program will probably be
poor…thus the commercial program probably won't be released.
Now, take those that need something better than we have here. Something
with all the bells and whistles. Folks in category 2 don't need, nor do
they want to pay for all the bells and whistles…and folks in category 1
are limited, so the market is limited…perhaps so limited that either the
software will cost quite a bit just to recover development costs, or it
won't hit the market at all due to low expected sales.
Does this mean that software companies shouldn't publish terminal programs
any more? Or does it mean that they can't expect a payback of development
costs (due to low sales and/or low prices in an attempt to sell a
reasonable number of copies) for a couple of years or longer?
There are 200,000 Amigas out there (in round numbers) and surveys show that
30% of them have modems…60,000. Of those 60,000…(who all need a
terminal program), I suspect that only about 5,000 need all the bells and
whistles. Since normal gross profit would run about $20/copy…then the
publisher would have to sell to each and every one of those 5,000 folks
just to make up development and marketing costs…with 0 profit left over.
To me, that's not reasonable. So the only way out, is to either not
publish, or get gross profits up…and the only way to do that is to
increase cost to the user. Now neither of those alternatives is acceptable
to me.
There are other factors, not everyone in category 2 uses a PD/Shareware
terminal program…and even some who do, also own a commercial program. So
the numbers aren't as "bleak" as they seem. But they could be, and that's
the scary part. When you are writing software for a PC, with an installed
base of millions, then the numbers don't matter…the 2.5% who need the
bells and whistles comprise a large enought market segment that sales to
them alone, among several vendors comprise enough potential sales to make a
reasonable profit. When you are dealing with a limited market such as the
present group of Amiga owners, then the potential sales numbers are
relatively small.
Look at the publishers who have shied away from Amiga development until the
numbers get bigger. Borland for one has said it will produce Amiga
products, but only when a certain number of machines have sold (I forget
the number, but it's large…and we're not there yet). I presume the same
holds true for other "biggies". That leaves the market to the smaller
publishers for now, and those are the very companies that can't afford to
gamble very much since they don't have large cash reserves to back them
up.
Like I said…I certainly don't want to limit the PD/Shareware offerings,
but by the same token, I don't want to limit the market availability for
the commercial companies either. The Amiga will rise or fall on software,
commercial software….the PD/Shareware offerings are "nice" but the
commercial offerings are a "must" for the Amiga to survive.
Again…a very complex issue, and one with no easy answers…or at least I
haven't heard any simple answers…and I certainly don't have any.