CompuServe Messages

First, you say developers generically, then say they paid for the privelidge of calling themselves 'Certified Developers', whereas I referred _specifically_ to 'Commercial Developers', where the screening _is_ much higher. I'm sure there are many construction workers that would make outstanding physicists, but, they didn't 'pay' (the $$ to go to a college to learn the trade) to become physicists, and aren't qualified to act as such. You seem to assume that commodore cannot give you something in return for registering with them, which is not the case. I know for a fact that that specific Manx representative went out of his way to make an end-user happy. And while that comment might have been phrased snidely (is that a word? :), there is a grain of truth in it. One of the complaints some end-users have is the fact that they _have_ to find their way into and out of the CLI. Smart people, too. Would these folks make good beta testers? Probably not, because they don't know the system well enough (yet) to know _why_ what went wrong, went wrong. If you resent Mike Spille's 'snide remark' about end-users, consider how I feel following this thread. You've made assumptions as to the motives of Amiga developers in a generic sweep, while I'm attempting to become a 'good' developer (following the rules, getting registered, etc, etc..). And I personally _do_ have an interest in the end-user and what s/he thinks, because s/he won't buy what s/he doesn't like to use. There's no point in creating a product if the end-user doesn't like it, so when a developer is developing a product, they're going to be more concerned with what the end user thinks than what commodore thinks. If commodore does something to the OS that violates their software (ruins the gui, whatever), they'll scream and holler. If enough scream and holler, CBM _better_ listen. Because of all the developers I know (I know 1 or 2 :), at one time or another (almost) all of them were end-users. –Eet–