CompuServe Thread

#AdSpeed & GVP Series II

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#17028From: Warren BriggsMar 10, 1991 10:53 AM
To ICD: HI…..I purchased AdSpeed at the show in Toronto in November. Just this past week I got a 52M SCSI GVP Impact Series II…. When AdSpeed is running at 14MHz, it screws up the hard drive (I get a series of "Error reading drive DH0:" and when it turn it off, e(the AdSPeed) everything works fine. I know AdSpeed works by caching FAST RAM and not touching chip ram. The setup utility (FAAASTPREP) that comes with the GVP HD lets you select the type of memory that buffers are allocated from (Either, Fast, or Chip) as well as an address mask to specify memory range that DMA transfers can use. I tried to phone on Friday but I was too late…so I figure CServe is just as efficient…. So, I set it up so that CHIP memory only was used for the drive's buffers and restricted all SCSI data transfers to those regions of memory that do support DMA (CHIP) by setting the mountlist mask-parameter to 0x1FFFFF (chip memory only) from 0xFFFFFE. The above I've basically copied out of the AdSpeed and GVP manuals. WHen I did this, everything worked fine. However, using DPERF2, the transfer rates were brutally slow (higher buffers made no difference at all) …something on the order of 80K/s. When AdSpeed is off and I let my harddrive use FAST RAM and reset the mask back to 0xFFFFFE, and use 32K buffers, I get 800K/s. Hopefully, you can understand what I'm trying to convey. Personally, I'd rather have the faster transfer rates than the speed increase (which has been marvelous up to now)…that's if I had to choose at gunpoint. Ideally, I'd like to run AdSpeed AND have the HD work no problems with the high data transfer rate. Help? Warren Briggs
#17031From: ICD, Inc.Mar 10, 1991 12:44 PM
Good thinking. You may have to stick with this for a little while, but not for long. What computer is this connected to? There could be another problem other than the main one I am about to discuss. Anyway, with the new GVP Series II, when you have RAM on the same board as the host adapter, they do direct DMA on the board, not doing the normal handshaking with the CPU for DMA. Since AdSpeed is never told that DMA is happening, it doesn't invalidate the cached data (which it is designed to do to remain compatible with DMA devices). We contacted GVP and a solution exists, or will sortly. FROM GVP, you need to get ROM release 4.10 or higher (it may or may not be available now) and a program that, at least in the beta version we got, was named sii-icdpatch. You then jumper AdSpeed to boot at 7MHz and, somewhere early in your startup-sequence, run the program (redirecting i/o to/from NIL:. This program patches into a hook in the new driver software and kills the AdSpeed cache during hard drive access. GVP was very cooperative in working this out. Anyway, contact GVP for the update. If you have an Amiga 500, this is all you need. If you have a 2000, then you need to have your AdSpeed modified. There is a bug in Buster that improperly passes the DMA handshake sequence. By modifying the timing in AdSpeed, we were able to overcome it. (By just touching buster with a logic analyzer lead the problem was also fixed. You figure it out.) Anyway, all but the first few AdSpeeds have this fix installed. If anyone has a DMA host adapter in a 2000 and are having problems with AdSpeed (there shouldn't be many) then we can fix it. Craig
#17061From: Randy MonkMar 10, 1991 7:57 PM
Does this mean that if I have a ram board separate (in another slot) from the GVP Impact Series II controller, that I can expect no problems? (no RAM on the HD controller card). Randy Monk
#17097From: ICD, Inc.Mar 11, 1991 5:38 AM
Right, it is only when the ram is ON the same board. Craig
#17208From: Warren BriggsMar 12, 1991 10:24 PM
Thanks for the info. I have no idea what ROM release it is (I only got it a week ago?) but it should be fairly recent. Will I get both the ROM (if necessary) and the sii-ICDPATCH from GVP or can I get that from you ppl? Warren Briggs, OVC'92
#17233From: ICD, Inc.Mar 13, 1991 4:39 AM
No, you can't get it from us. It is their product. And I don't think they are released just yet. Craig
#17353From: Thom GarrisonMar 14, 1991 6:20 PM
How about the first series GVP Impact 500? I have 2 Megs out of 4 installed in it. – via Whap!
#17718From: ICD, Inc.Mar 18, 1991 7:28 AM
No problem, only the Series II. We confirmed at Amiga World Expo that they will be releasing the ROM and program soon. Appears that the program has changed, and that it will be parameters for the GVPMount program. Anyway, there are some other things changed in it. They say price should be around $20 for the upgrade. Craig