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#17103From: Mike NelsonMar 7, 1992 6:45 PM
I'm a Mac user who just got a Toaster system… I LOVE IT!!! BUT I have a question. What would be the best way to get Mac Photoshop files to the Amiga. Photoshop will save in IFF format as well as raw RGB and will open them as well. My best thought so far is to set up a null modem system and use communications software to transfer the files between the machines. Will this work? Is there a better way? If it makes a difference, I have an Amiga 2000 with an RCS 68040 board, GVP SCSI controller with hard drive, and 16 meg RAM on the 040 board. On the Mac side: Quadra 700. Until I got this system (two days ago), I had never seen amiga in real life (no dealers even close to here), so I truly am an Amiga novice. If anyone has any Toaster or Amiga tips I would love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Mike Nelson
#17108From: SyndesisMar 7, 1992 9:07 PM
I wrote the ReadPICT and WritePICT tools that come with Toaster 2.0. These programs make it easy to move Mac PICT bitmaps to and from the Toaster. In PhotoShop, just work with 752 by 480 pixel images and everything will be great for the Toaster. The easiest way to move files is to use PC disks, using Apple File Exchange on one side and an Amiga program called CrossDOS. You could use a null modem and terminal programs if you really want to. Also consider using a compression program to help fit those 24 bit PICTs on a 720K PC disk. Be sure to read Appendix 12, which details a lot of what I mention here.
#17109From: Doug WingerMar 7, 1992 10:20 PM
Mike, Can't help you too much with the Toaster side of things, but I do regularly move files between the machines. Using a Null modem and comm software works quite well. The only thing you'll have to watch for is the macbinary headers in the files, both incoming and outgoing. Microphone II on the Mac side seems to work the best, allowing for Macbinary or 'plain' transfers, and there's a whole slew of _very_ nice Amiga communication software available right here. Note- it's the Mac's resposiblity to strip/add the proper headers, as it's the one that uses 'non-standard' file structures. Are you sure Photoshop turns out IFF? The version I have doesn't. IFF and TIFF are not the same thing. However, if your have the latest and greatest and it does export real IFF 24 bit files, use that rather than raw RGB. IFF is the native file format on the Amiga and has a lot of things supporting it. Other hints and tips- The Amiga is NOT a 'you use what we give you, or don't even bother trying' machine. It's whatever you want to make of it. Take the time to learn it, especially AmigaDOS. There's a _lot_ of power under the hood and makes things easy if you know what your doing. The GUI on the Amiga is there for ease of use for the beginner- once you get 'under' it, there's a whole new world. It's more a power-user's machine and rquires you to work for things, but rewards your efforts most handsomely. Look into Arexx as well, as the promise there is astounding. I've worked on both and always find myself drawn back to the Amiga. I like the Mac, but find it a bit limiting, almost arrogant in its assumptions of, "What's good for Apple is good for the user." Once you get beyond the neophyte stage there's a lot of walls for you to bash into. The Amiga is completely open, and you _can_ get lost in the expanse unless you're careful. And when you experience what real multitasking can do and find out that Multifinder was a sham. Anyway, I'm prejudiced, but not ignorantly so. You've now got two of <continued>
#17141From: SyndesisMar 8, 1992 1:32 PM
PhotoShop 2.0 does up to 32 color IFF, but I've heard that version 2.1 handles 24 bit IFF, but I haven't confirmed that.
#17142From: Margaret CopelandMar 8, 1992 2:09 PM
Who did you hear that from? I have Photoshoppe buddies and would like to send them my work.
#17153From: SyndesisMar 8, 1992 9:42 PM
I'm not sure. 🙂 Sorry. I don't have the 2.1 update yet. I do have 2.0, and it doesn't handle any better than 32 color IFF. Maybe call Adobe?
#17155From: Margaret CopelandMar 8, 1992 9:46 PM
Yes, tis a queer Mac world out there. I gather that aside from Storm Technologies that there isn't much being held up as a banner for JPEG as we know it. Seems like most of the Mac stuff gets compressed with Kodak's Colorsqueeze stuff. This makes it difficult to exchange files to say the least. I was hoping that Adobe would come thru but I think I'll save the phone call. Thanks.
#17229From: Henry LowengardMar 10, 1992 11:14 PM
ABout Jpeg on the mac: There's a nice Jpeg compressor that comes with the Quicktime CD rom . Not true JFIF files, but I'm working (or not) on "fixing" the file up to be legible by ImagePro. A bit tricky, since I don't have any JFIF specs! So, My guess is that JPEG of some sort will be cheap and plentiful for the Mac, as Quicktime makes its way into the mainstream. BTW, Apple wants quicktime to be a multi platform standard, so anyone interested in doing the QT-ANIM5/ANIM5-QT convert tools? Stop looking at me! Actually Quick time is more comprehensive than ANims, since it's designed to degrade in an orderly way, and you can control several media with different priorities (not just audio and video, but MIDI and user callable functions can be synched to the quicktime timeline). Maybe we could use a real quicktime player and builder?
#17110From: Doug WingerMar 7, 1992 10:20 PM
the better machines out and they can complement each other wonderously if you do things right. I'm primarily in the high-end DTP world, so I can speak knowlegably about that end. There's a LOT of video people around here, though, and many of them have a great deal of experience. Just drop your questions here, and someone will certainly be able to answer it outright or point you in the correct direction. Doug
#17197From: Peter GreciMar 10, 1992 1:51 AM
Howdy mate,Ya might wanna Subscribe to 2 Excellent magazines AVid and the Toaster oriented Breadbox.Have fun with yer Toaster dude Null modem will work just gotta have telecomm prg for both machines of
#17213From: Bob VannMar 10, 1992 5:36 PM
If you have an address/Phone # for The Breadbox, I'd sure appreciate it!
#17245From: Frank VanellaMar 11, 1992 10:27 AM
Bob, just thought I'd jump in, here's the phone number and address for BreadBox; (408) 252-0508 Avid/BreadBox 21611 Stevens Creek Blvd. Cupertino, CA 95014
#17269From: Peter GreciMar 12, 1992 12:13 AM
Thanx for supplying the info Mate,didn't have the info handy
#17353From: Bob VannMar 14, 1992 11:27 AM
Hi Frank: Thanks for the Breadbox info…..still waiting for your stuff..! Talk to ya later! Bob
#17391From: Frank VanellaMar 15, 1992 12:32 PM
Bob, I was waiting to get my latest real estate project finished before sending off the tape, the client had some last minute inserts to change, so I should have it buttoned up and out to you sometime early this week. BTW, does the station you work for accept SVHS or do you make them 3/4 dubs? I am curious because I am writing a new article that features using the Toaster to produce spots and I am wondering how well "S" is penetrating the TV station market. Frank
#17394From: Bob VannMar 15, 1992 1:40 PM
Hi Frank- I dub all finished projects to 3/4" for distribution to stations. I have yet to find any stations with S-VHS equipment. It's really it pity, too, 'cause it would save a generation. I AM considering a 3/4" editor (that would be controllable from my Panasonic 80 controller) to edit to for single-station work, OR for using 1st generation aquisition material. Time & money (sigh). Gotta upgrade the ol' Toaster first, tho (accel, memory + 2.0). Current project: Series of (6) :10's for a local country FM Station. (FYI)
#17440From: Frank VanellaMar 16, 1992 6:31 PM
Thanks for the reply, I thought that might be the case. Hope you can get up to 2.0 soon, you'll really appreciate the improvements especially in loading/saving framestores. I got your tape finished yesterday, I'll get it over to the post office sometime today or tomorrow. Hope all goes well with your radio promos. Take care. Frank
#17507From: Bob VannMar 18, 1992 1:08 PM
Hi Frank: Yeah, looking to get it to 2.0 probably next week. I'll probably have a question or two (g). Looking forward to yer demo…I'll send ya a copy of the WMYY stuff & a "Tropical Plant Liquidation" spot when they're finished! Bob
#17268From: Peter GreciMar 12, 1992 12:13 AM
The phone # for Avid is the same ya would use for Breadbox dude I don't have it handy tho
#17326From: Joe MaulucciMar 13, 1992 6:29 PM
Bread Box (408) 252-0508 Avid subscribers special offer… Receive 12 issues of Bread Box for $30. (from The Avid Letter, 2/11/92) – Joe Maulucci – Accadia Electronic Arts – Buffalo, NY