CompuServe Thread

#floptical mountlist

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#90141From: Paul WrightFeb 25, 1993 3:55 PM
Yup, but the HDtoolbox does not work with a 2090a. Commodore abandoned the old stuff again. —–Paul—–
#90152From: Richard RoseenFeb 25, 1993 5:32 PM
If you bought your floptical from an Insite approved PC vendor TWO difficulties prevent you from using your floptical on your Amiga. You must have both conditions satisfied. 1) you must have special program that sends a SCSI MODE command with the appropiate floptical specific parameter to unlock the floptical drive. The floptical drive otherwise power up as locked which means you _cannot_ write to any disk inserted. This mode command must be sent via AmigaDOS direct SCSI driver access. All A2090 and 2090'a have damaged direct SCSI access. 2) you must have a mountlist or RDB for the drive. Also you must high level AmigaDOS only format the floptical disk. This is impossible on the 2090's since its driver requires that you Prep the drive. But the 2090 Prep program low level formats the drive which would be unacceptable to the floptical media and drive whose normal mode in low level formatting is to map out errors on the media in the formatting which Prep will not accept. Your only choice is to buy a new controller that does proper direct SCSI access. This will interfere with your current MFM drive. You would also need special programs to format AmigaDOS 720k and 1.44M 3.5" floppies in order to use those lower media floppies which the drive is capable of using.
#90311From: Paul WrightFeb 26, 1993 6:05 PM
Hmmm. That sounds awfully ominous. Does the fact that I can format on the IBM and work thru CrossDos help me any? I guess the SCSI unlock command is the real killer. I'll have to hope someone can figure a workaround. I don't think the 2000 merits a major investment like changing both hd interface and drive at this point. Thanks for the info. —–Paul—–
#91038From: Richard RoseenMar 4, 1993 8:31 PM
If you have the 2090's, not the 2091, then you must switch hardware. CrossDos will not work around the problem if you have one of the 2090's. Reason: is the RDB. The 2090's DO NOT support RDB and never will. CrossDOS 5.0 and the emulator are setup with RDB drives and floppies ONLY. You would have to do multple convoltions to get a 2090 or any controller not supporting RDB to work with CrossDOS. As goes CrossDOS so does the floptical. No it is not a major investment to switch over to an RDB controller. I have seen many Dataflyers for sale used from $10 to $30. And new ADSCSI's and DataFlyers for around $60. And several mail order places such as Briwall trying to sell out of thier 2091's for as little as $49. Sell your what is it? 40Meg MFM for $100 or so and I could you a reconditioned 90 day warrantee, brand name SCSI 40 MEG. for $149 at most computer shows. Point is that what you want to is already a work around even if you already had an RDB controller.
#91072From: Paul WrightMar 4, 1993 10:35 PM
Well, I wander the computer shows too and haven't noticed any really good prices on SCSIs. IDEs and MFMs, yes. (Have you tried to find an RLL lately?) But, yeah, I've ordered a 2091 and will probably have switch. I was kind of hoping someone could tell me how to coexist the 2090a and a 2091. Thanks for the info, though. —–Paul—–
#91181From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 6, 1993 12:00 AM
Paul, I exist with a 2090 (not the A model) and an A2091, no problems. What exactly is it you want to do and/or what problems are you having? Don
#90751From: Patrick DohertyMar 1, 1993 11:12 PM
Paul, I had a problem with my floptical – the system would not find it from a cold boot. I could either warm boot or figure out a mount list and do it the old way. I have an A3000 with the newer controller however. This mount list worked for me. V2.1 cured the problem I was having by rescanning the drives after loading workbench, so I don't use it anymore. * Disk Size: 20 Meg * Vendor and drive name: Insite * */ Surfaces = 2 BlocksPerTrack = 27 LowCyl = 2 HighCyl = 752 DosType = 0x444F5301 Buffers = 30 BufMemType = 0 Activate = 1 Device = scsi.device Unit = 1 Flags = 0 FileSystem = L:FastFileSystem StackSize = 2000 Priority = 5 GlobVec = -1 Hope this helps, Patrick
#90790From: Erik FlomMar 2, 1993 2:25 PM
PMFJI, but . . . Could you expand on the comment: 'I have an A3000 with the newer controller however.'? I have an A3000, and was unaware of any difference in controllers. (Or were you just referring to newer vs the A2090 controller, or sumthin'.) Is there any way to tell what 'version' I might have? Thanks, sorry for the interruption, Erik Flom