#XM3301B DRVRS ANYONE????
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I am now desperately seeking drivers which work with ICOM Simulations
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Dective (Version: 3) for a Toshiba XM3301B.
The following message was sent to both COREL and TOSHIBA trying to get
working drivers.
I have been trying since November, 1992, to get a working CD Rom device
driver for my Toshiba XM3301B CD Rom drive just purchased in November of last
year.
The following is a PLEA sent to COREL which I forward to TOSHIBA for
comment. This message was sent to COREL following a disturbing discussion with
Toshiba Tech Support.
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Bryan (Of Corel Tech Support Forum),
I currently have the same drive as Guenther (Toshiba XM-3301B) with an
Adaptec 1542b, and I have their ASPI packages, ASPI4DOS, ASW-410 (CD Rom driver
pack), and EZSCSI.
I also recently purchased Sherlock Holmes (Volume 1) from ICOM simulations
and find that the Adaptec 1542b with Adaptec's drivers is alledged by ICOM to
be passing GARBAGE through the drivers to the game.
When I purchased the 1542b, I purchased the "KIT" including all drivers
except CD Rom. I was told the CD Rom was included, but it turned out not to be
included. I had to pay $59 more for the CD drivers. Then Feb 14, I found out
the $59 CD driver pack was alledged to be the cause of Sherlock Holmes not
working, and Adaptec told me I had to upgrade to EZSCSI for another $29 + $9
s&h.
The EZSCSI not only did not fix the CD problem, but it now caused my IOMEGA
OAD drivers not to function making it impossible to process data on my
Bernoulli's.
ICOM tells me that the Corel SCSI drivers WILL fix my problem because Corel
develops their own drivers from scratch, but an end user tells me that the
Corel CD Driver for Toshiba writes over the MOUSE.SYS device driver when
running Sherlock.
Toshiba tells me that their driver will work with Adaptec ASPI, but will not
permit a return of the product if the drivers don't work.
What's a person to do — can no one produce a WORKING driver for this CD
Drive????
Can you please shed some light on how I can get my XM3301B working short of
sending it back to Toshiba and replacing it with another brand??
Respectfully,
Roger W. Faulds
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anyone has drivers actually working with an Adaptec 1542B and a Toshiba
XM3301B, please let me know what software you are using. Please include
Versions, and if possible byte counts, and date and time stamps of the files.
Thanks, Roger
I have the adaptec 1542b. I am using the Corel drivers withe the Toshiba
xm3301b and I have had no problems. I would suspect your Sherlock Holmes
package. I have not used it. Everything I have tried to read with the Toshiba
xm3301b and the Corel scsi has worked beautifully.
Ken Brown
Ken,
That was my experience until I purchased Sherlock Holmes. ICOM Simulations
uses a feature of the CD Drives not too many producers are using: CONTINUOUS
READ.
According to THEM, this stresses the drivers to their peak of throughput, and
in the case of the Adaptec Software Drivers, also the breaking point.
Thanks, Roger
PMJI, I am sorry to agree with you. I thought, too, that my 1542B + XM3301B
work fine and was going to report you that. Just to be sure, I got a Sherlock
Holmes CD and wtached my PC crash then. Adaptec + Toshiba should get a copy of
this CD to test their products! If you find a solution, PLEASE let me know,
too! Good luck, Christian
Roger,
Continuous Read merely refers to the type of technology that the drive hardware
uses to transfer the data to the computer. Another method is called Bundle-, or
Packet-Read, which we can't be compatible with (there's only two drives on the
market currently which use that method, both by NEC).
All that Sherlock Holmes is doing is to continually stream data off the CD,
which shouldn't be anything unusual. If there's a bug in the software driver
which is going to occasionally send invalid data, then the problem will appear
more often in SH than in your average reference work because of the amount of
data we're pulling through.
Michael O'Connell
Online Support
ICOM Simulations
708/520-4440
Ken,
That was my experience until I purchased Sherlock Holmes. ICOM Simulations
uses a feature of the CD Drives not too many producers are using: CONTINUOUS
READ.
According to THEM, this stresses the drivers to their peak of throughput, and
in the case of the Adaptec Software Drivers, also the breaking point.
Thanks, Roger
Roger…
I'll be posting an answer to you in the Corel forum as well, but suffice it to
say that I have a Toshiba 3301B, an LS-2000 SCSI card (8-bit), and am using
ICOM's Sherlock II with no problems at all. It sounds to me as if there's a
potential conflict in your setup. By the way, did you get the SCSI Master Plus
kit? If so, our CD-ROM drivers should have been included.
Yours,
Bryan
Bryan,
I purchased the Adaptec 1542B ahead of the purchase of the Toshiba, and the
1542B was purchased as a "KIT" with all drivers. Follow-up upgrade to EZSCSI
of Adaptec did nothing to resolve the problem I am experiencing.
As for conflicts in hardware/software/drivers, etc., there are none. Each
machine I have built is very well documented with a matrix of memory maps, and
adapter configurations.
There are no conflicts in hardware — software (drivers) are configure per
documentation — but since I did not develop them myself I can only assume that
if the documentation (and README's) are correct, the drivers are configured
correctly.
Roger
PMJI, I bought the 1542B with the Master Kit, but there was NO CD-ROM driver
included. There was a (VERY) obsolete OS/2 driver, a DOS disk driver (how
nice!) and a Netware driver (very usefull for a home computer). I consider
ADAPTEC's policy on drivers a gigantic rip-off!!!! Have you ever heard of a
video adapter where you have pay for the drivers. Any other product? Only
adaptec sells their hardware w/o any drivers and demands money for drivers
piecemeal! Christian
I disagree with you on drivers being supplied free with various products. We
have bought CD-ROM drives, NEC, Sony and Hitachi without drivers, video cards
without Win 3.1 drivers and sound cards without Win 3.1 drivers, and Future
Domain SCSI cards and others which have no CD-ROM drivers, only the BIOS on the
card supports hard drives. Most products are available bundled or un- bundled.
Not long ago, a computer with no DOS or OS. The big issue on free drivers is
where does the money come from to develop new drivers if they have to be given
away. I rather pay a few bucks, and have new drivers available, than have no
or poor drivers for free. I can think of hardware we have now that we must
replace since new drivers are not available that work well.
Bill, there's a BIG difference between computers without OS and hardware
without drivers. It's no use to have a bundled DOS when you are running UNIX or
OS/2. Anyway, I have paid quite a lot for drivers and they DON'T work (see the
message on CONTINOUS read on Sherlock Holmes), which is rather unpleasing.
Finally, what's the use of bare hardware w/o drivers. You can't use them. The
common procedure then is to by a couple of drives and one set of drivers. This
is NOT correct! Having hardware and software bundled would avoid this
semi-automatic software piracy. And again, have you EVER seen a video card w/o
drivers? Why do you think DO they include drivers? Christian
Greetings, Please allow my butting in. I wholeheartedly disagree with having to
pay "again" . Yes again for a deficient driver for my toshiba 3301 cdrom. The
money to develop new drivers or support existing products should be
incorporated into the original purchase price (as is always the case). Why is
it that video card mfrs. can send out new drivers on aregular basis without
charge. Why is it that modem companies can send out firmware (actual chips)
without charge?. what about Novell and their modules? what about hp drivers?
the list goes on… The fact of the matter is that only the CDROM mfrs and
their associated controller manufacturers are the only industry trying to pull
this sort of crap. they are getting greedy. I f you make a product, then stand
behind it all the way!!! I Just payed $20 to get a new driver for my toshiba
3301 to allow it to read Photo-CD. Now they (Toshiba) tells me I need an
upgrade of the CDROM itself if I want to use it for multisession ($99 +S&H both
ways). All of a sudden my CDROM was not such a bargain!!!