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#The Miracle

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#14460From: Christopher TolmieJan 1, 1992 8:02 PM
Anybody using the new midi keyboard The Miracle, with an Amiga yet? I'd like to know how it hooks up to it, do I need a MIDI interface, it says in the brochure you just hook it up, but the 800 number info person had no idea. I've played with an MessyDos machine connected to it and the GUI looks good, I think I could learn to play a keyboard from this teaching method, heck the typing tutor I have for Amiga, keyboard cadet, boosted my touch typing from 30wpm to around 50wpm, so I'd like to try learning the piano now. Please respond, either here, or E-mail, I won't be in the forums that much the next few months, will be travelling to CA and sans computer, where is the Amiga laptop when you want one? B^) Chris Tolmie
#14489From: Howard WootenJan 2, 1992 12:46 PM
Chris, It's my understanding the Miracle system comes with it's own serial interface, a non-standard MIDI device. The Kybrd does have MIDI in & out ports, with the addition of a standard MIDI interface you could expand your system at a later date. I think Blue Ribbon did the software for the Amiga version maybe someone from B.R. will comment. Melissa? – via Whap!
#14503From: Lee GranthamJan 2, 1992 8:45 PM
Folks: this is somewhat related to this thread. I received a nice keyboard for Christmas: a Kawai WK40, with Midi in and out ports; can it be hooked up to the Amiga to utilize some piano-teaching software out there? If so, what gizmos do I need? Is the Miracle software limited solely to its own keyboard, or can it be used with other boards? My present musical skills are limited: I can read music (slowly), and can pick out a melody while making chords–but I really don't consider that "playing" the piano. I guess a simpler way to ask my question would be, does there exist any good piano-teaching software for the Amiga which can utilize a Midicompatible keyboard? Any and all advice is welcome. Lee
#14519From: Christopher TolmieJan 2, 1992 11:37 PM
Lee, I wouldn't be able to answer that question, but there is a member here who works in a store that sells the Miracle keyboard, maybe he'll see your post and respond to it. Chris
#14544From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPJan 3, 1992 2:25 PM
From what I've read about the Miracle and the questions I've asked, the software which comes with it will NOT work with other Midi keyboards. I don't know if any plans exist to allow for a standalone package later. (I hope so, personally…) I'm not aware of any other Amiga piano teaching software, either. –>Steve Bennett
#14562From: Jim SteeleJan 3, 1992 10:16 PM
I plan on trying out the Miracle software when I get a chance to take my Casio MT240 down to the store. It may work, but I seriously doubt that the patch layout of the Casio will match up with the Miracle keyboard's layout. Some of the arrangements may sound pretty strange! Also, the keyboard is used to make some of the sound effects in the lessons. Those sounds will certainly be missing. I would certainly like to see the software available for generic keyboards, if the powers-that-be are listening. 🙂 BTW, in the accessory catalog supplied with the keyboard they offer 'conversion kits' to use the keyboard on other platforms. So I suppose it's possible to get just the software. -Jim
#14518From: Christopher TolmieJan 2, 1992 11:36 PM
Howard, Thanks for replying, sounds like a good deal to me! I'm interested in the keyboard and software bundle for sure! Now not only will I have improved my typing via my Amiga and Keyboard Cadet, but now I'm gonna learn to play a piano, read music, and have fun at the same time. Thanks, Chris
#14504From: Jim SteeleJan 2, 1992 9:04 PM
We've got one of the Miracle keyboards on display in the store. It hooks up directly to the Amiga's serial port, no MIDI required. It's not too shabby, 4 octaves, velocity sensitive keys, 128 patches. It does have MIDI IN and OUT jacks, but the serial port connection is effectively a MIDI interface. I've used Deluxe Music to run the keyboard both in and out. It's 8 voice multi-timbral, but only plays notes coresponding to the actual keys on the keyboard. So…. you can't play notes outside of the 4 octave range of the keyboard. The teaching software looks pretty good, but I haven't got very far into it. -Jim
#14517From: Christopher TolmieJan 2, 1992 11:34 PM
Jim, It sounds like my first keyboard may be The Miracle. If the software is similar to the IBM version it'll do for me. I need a tutor program and this must be it. I've been waiting (not really knowing why or when) for a nice inexpensive keyboard for my Amiga with software to use it. What price are you selling it for? Another member was wondering if he could use the software with a different keyboard. His message is over in AmigaUser. Thanks, Chris
#14534From: Jan 3, 1992 8:22 AM
We designed the Amiga version of the software directly in conjunction with the design of the IBM version. If you liked the IBM version, you'll love the Amiga version. Melissa
#14538From: Christopher TolmieJan 3, 1992 11:19 AM
Melissa, Then I'm sure I'll be buying a Miracle later this year. Thanks for the info, Chris
#14563From: Jim SteeleJan 3, 1992 10:16 PM
Chris, I see Melissa answered your question about the IBM version. The Amiga software is great. I would recommend a HD or three floppies. The software comes on three disks, and swapping them is a pain. Kind of interupts the learing process. 🙂 I believe Lynn (the chief) priced the Miracle at $399. When I get a chance, I plan to try my Casio with the software. Not that I'd want to use the Casio to learn on… it's only got 1/2 size keys. But for $90, it's a bargain in MIDI keyboards. -Jim
#14595From: Christopher TolmieJan 4, 1992 12:34 PM
Jim, $399 seems to be the going price for the keyboard. I went into an electronic boutique which sells them and they have the 8-bit version for ninetendo and the 16-bit version for IBM, but no Amiga version! They did have an extensive (ha!) collection of Amiga software titles NOT! (all games!) I'm wondering, if other keyboards will work, (must have a MIDI port right?) then can you just purchase the software or is it a hardware/software combination that needs this specific keyboard? Chris
#14628From: Jim SteeleJan 4, 1992 11:30 PM
Chris, Amiga dealers can get the keyboard through the usual Amiga distributors. I imagine that electronic boutique can get you one if they want your business. I wandered into the semi-local WaldenSoftware, they also had the clone version but no Amiga version. Their selection of Amiga software seems to get smaller every time I stop in. I did get Photon Video transport contoller for $8.92… not that I have any use for it. 🙂 I did manage to take my old Casio into the store today. The software could play the Casio via a MIDI interface, but it couldn't read my keyboard very well. Perhaps it's just my keyboard, but it looks like you have to use their keyboard. That's not so bad I guess. When you've learned to play, you can sell it to someone else…. Or, add one of those 'voice modules' like Roland's MT32 and play it with the Miracle keyboard. Jim