#TERM guru
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Hmmm… 2.5? Are you sure its not one of the infamous hacked versions?
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\X/ Amiga -Steve ——> On AutoPilot from Silicon Valley
Got a net feed from Olaf.. Term 3.1 is being released now…
-Jonathan
Next time you communicate with Olaf, could you ask him if he got the
package I sent him before Christmas. I've never heard from him (not even
a letter) since I sent it. It was my contribution for TERM!
Thanks,
Rodger
I don't actually "talk" to him, I just saw a net feed indicating that the
3.1 version of Term would be available later that week (last week).
-Jonathan
If you have it, could you PLEASE u/l it?!? I use 2.4 (poss 2.4a), but it
just seems a little too fragile for my tastes. Having to set a max error
limit of 999 just so that the Zmodem XPR will _eventually_ resync annoys
me. Especially when VLT, running under the same circumstances, works
perfectly.
// Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
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When I get it (the new version of Term – 3.1 ) I will upload it….
-Jonathan
Many Thanks…
// Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
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Brian,
Try bumping up the Term priority to 1. (Settings/misc or A-8). Once I
did that, all the ZModem errors went away. Note that you'll have to
change this in any phonebook entries as well.
FYI, I'm using 2.4a.
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\X/ Amiga -Steve ——> On AutoPilot from Silicon Valley
I did that, and where Term 2.3 liked that, 2.4 had my errors re-appear.
I'll have to look at it again — probably re-build my phonebook from
scratch just to make sure….
// Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
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Just got term 3.1 nice release fixes severeal problems I had.
Forrest
Forrest,
Did you get Term 3.1 from here? When I'm not using AP, that's my Term
program of choice. I also appreciate the fact that it's continually
updated. My latest version is 2.4a. I didn't know about 3.1 until now.
Dom Fontana
–> Sent from NY via AP <–
Have any of you TERM 3.1 users experienced a lock up trying to DL with Y-Modem?
I've been using 2.4a for quite a while with no problems, however, since I've
upgraded to ver 3.1 I can't do squat on CompuServe with out locking up on DL's.
I noticed that the Y-Modem Library had changed, but even the older version
didn't help…
I'd appreciate it if you've experienced the same problems and could tell me how
to cure them…3.1 has some great features as compared to 2.4a…
Alan Henry c/o Presidio Software
Alan,
I've only been working with TERM 3.1 for a few days, but have not had a
successful download yet (been using the quick B protocol). It begins OK,
then goes into one long series of time outs….and abort seems to take a
long time to kick in.
Thought it was something I was doing wrong, or had the config wrong, but
maybe there's something else going on here.
Sorry, no answer to a "fix"….but at least misery enjoys some company.
Gary
Question: When I try to download with QuickB, I get a window on my screen
asking for a path to "start the protocol". The default is something like
"dow/proto:quickb" or somesuch. What do I have to enter here?
Any and all help appreciated.
Seth // "A whole wide world,
// An endless Universe.
\\// Yet we keep looking
\/ Through the eyeglass in Reverse."
Have you tried the default? I suspect it will work. You might have to
change the / to a ; or a space, though.
After this, CompuServe will ask for a "name for your computer to use" and
you will need to type the path as well as the filename, such as:
DF0:NEWFILE.LHA
—Betty
Seth, First, check the reply I got from Scott, on making your buffer the
maximum (like 256K) that you can afford. That seems to get the downloads to
flow. Second, go the setting menu, Protocols, and then use the directory
requester to get you to wherever your library files are stored (term libraries,
that is). Once you get there, choose the quickb.lib. As soon as that's done,
pull down the same Settings menu, and choose "save". That should establish the
path that Term needs to find the quickB protocol (or any other protocol you
choose). That's as far as I've gotten so far. According to the docs, that
should make the download totally automatic, but I still get a requester from
compuserve wanting the file name for my computer. That should be automatically
taken care of, but obviously I still need some more config. work to make that
happen. Will share with you when I get done. Gary
Gary, as far as I know CIS will always ask for 'a filename for your
computer' when you access through anything other than Autopilot. I think
that's on the CIS end and not your Term_inal.
Scott
Scott,
I will confirm that. I work directly connected to a CIS node and a
remote file name is always requested.
-Larry
Thanks. Will try it now.
Seth
Gary,
I too expierienced the timeout problem with quickB & TERM3.1, I think it
has to do with the quickB protocol because you'll notice that the timeouts
occur when the buffer gets filled and written to the HD. When you're HD
light blinks suddenly you're Recieved light on the modem stops blinking,
then you register 2 timeouts. Pretty irritating eh?
Try this… from the main screen ( not from the phonebook) select
menu/settings/Transfer… when QuickB is the selected protocol ( shown in
the status window. Go to the requester and change the buffer size from 16
kb to whatever you can afford memory wise. I set mine to 256 KB and since
then I don't recieve timeouts anymore…unless the file is over 256 kb.
Hope that helps…
Scott
Scott, I had just downloaded a small 3K file with QB, and it worked. Now that
I've read your note I know why! Thanks for the buffer tip…will do.
Gary
No problem, sometimes though I just wish CIS would offer Zmodem or
SuperZmodem. I really like that protocol, I've gotten almost 2000 cps
with Zmodem talking to an Amiga based BBS in my area downloading
compressed data at 14.4
Scott
Scott, You can almost always get quicker downloads at a local BBS than
through any network. On the BBS, you have your computer, your modem,
their modem, and their computer all to yourself, and there is no delay for
packet-switching. Not so with any of the big networks.
I like ZModem, too, but it is not faster than B+, nor have I found it to
be better in any way.
—Betty
Betty,
Since quickB can't be tested on any local BBS I know I think it's hard to
say which is faster. Why do you say that it's faster?
The ability to down or upload a selected queue with Zmodem is the reason
that I like it. I didn't know that quickB had that ability.
Scott
Except for one big difference… ZModem is widely used, B+ exists only on
compuserve.
Bill
James,
Sorry, but I don't have Term 3.1 yet. Maybe someone else can help you.
Dom Fontana
–> Sent from NY via AP <–
I've had the same problem with Term 2.4a. Locks up after block 2024 has
been received.
Hmmm, well James I have Term 3.1 but I have never used Y-modem with CIS as
quickB gives me the fastest response. Why do you use Y-modem?
In terms of new features they seem a little scarce to me, theres the wait
feature and the difference in the phone book (double click to dial) but
other than that…
Ever notice how when you drag the review window down to make it bigger the
text doesn't expand to fill it? You have to drag it down again for the
text to fill to the first size you dragged it to. Wierd.
Anyways, try quickB Ok.
Scott
Thanks for the responses…I've fixed the problem, although I'm not exactly
sure why it fixed it. I changed to HIGH-SPEED mode and STRIP BIT 8 in the
SERIAL SETTINGS menu. Everything now runs flawlessly. As far as DL/UL speeds,
I achieve 204 chars/sec. What does QuickB get? I've tried both QuickB and B+
with no luck. I've read their respective docs, but I must be missing
something. I have the protocol selected, I choose it as the DL protocol on
CIS, CIS spits out its initialization line, I select DL Binary File from the
TRANSFER MENU, a requester comes up requesting a name for the file. After I
enter a name and hit select, me and the computer just sit and stare at each
other waiting for someone to make a move. Finally CIS steps in and says "OK
guys quit your messing around" and terminates the DL with a timeout error. I
don't even get as far as the DL Panel appearing. To make a short story long,
that is why I use Y-Modem.
Alan Henry c/o Presidio Software
OK, disregard the last message…I just made a few more SETTINGs changes
(although they may have had nothing to do with the fixes) and QUICKB is now up
and running as advertised. WOW, 230 chars/sec vers. 204 chars/sec..
.I don't do much better than that with Z-Modem. How is QB's error trapping?
Any problems with chopping off files at the end etc. What is KERMIT? How fast
is it and who does his voice now that Henson went to the great fraggle rock in
the sky?
Alan Henry c/o Presidio Software
Could be a hacked version. The docs have some kind of addendum about being
a beta release; If it's beta, the author ought to weed out some of his
less honest testers. I've had some strange crashes with it. Never got my
hands on 2.4a though.
-Chris