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#"Murmurs of the Earth"

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#43127From: John BlairMar 15, 1993 8:04 PM
For Christmas I received a Sony CDROM drive along with several CD's for it. "Murmurs of the Earth" (by Warners New Media) won't show me the pictures (taken by Voyager). "Great Wonders" by Interoptica Publishing doesn't show where the cursor is and eventually locks up. Warners sent an update of the driver (reader?) s/w on a new CD. It was different (three interferring images vs none). They now say they can do no more for me. Interoptica keeps telling me they will ship an update at the end of the month. (January, February, March??) Any ideas on how to fix?
#43256From: Evan ZuckerMar 17, 1993 1:31 AM
John, FWIW, I purchased Murmurs of the Earth for the PC a few weeks ago. Not only did it not work on my system, but it crashed my system and trashed my Norton Desktop for Windows desktop. I returned it the next day. The Egghead salesman told me that he had received several reports of incompatibilities with Diamond Stealth Super VGA cards. Too bad this wasn't documented. — EVAN
#43315From: John BlairMar 17, 1993 8:45 PM
Evan, thanks for the feedback. I sometimes think that it may be only me or my equipment. I run NDW also and have had no apparent trouble with it or with system crashes. The folks at Warners New Media seem like they are trying to help but just can't. I've had several converstions with a Mike LaJoi there, who in turn has had several conversations with the maker of my video card. Apparently the culprit is the S3 chip set. Not really a culprit, it is just that their applications software isn't compatible with any video driver using the S3 chips. (I think the Diamond Stealth may use S3 also.) Worse yet, they apparently haven't had enough volume to justify modifying their software for all the various Windows accelerators around. In addition to the one non-functional update I was sent, they have offerred to exchange "Murmurs" for any of their other products. But I really want those pictures! There must be some other way??? If I hear of something I'll let you know.
#43476From: Dave WoolcockMar 19, 1993 6:33 PM
Diamond Stealth… I have had a number of compatibility problems with this card at work – with a number of different bits of software. Updated drivers for Stealth are available on the WINADV forum (I think) – they cured most of my problems, but not all. I think that some of the problems may be "hardwired"-type problems on the card. Maybe its unfair to blame your CDROM suppliers when the real culprits may be the card mfrs. I certainly wouldn't recommend the Diamond Stealth card after my experiences with it. dw
#43781From: Paul CarlsonMar 22, 1993 9:30 PM
The only way I have been able to get my copy of "Murmurs of Earth" to work on my system (Texel 3024 with ET-3000-based Amdek VGA card) is to disable my expanded memory manager (EMM386.exe), and rem out everything else so that there is at least 535K of conventional memory. Then, at least, you can see the pictures. You can use the "mem/c" or "chkdsk" from DOS to see how much conventional memory you have available. No matter what I do, Windows usually gives me an "application viloated system integrity" error when I try to execute the murmurs.exe file. To my mind, it may be a bit premature to blame the video card when the soft- ware refuses to run under Windows on two different platforms (IMHO). Good luck in trying to make it work! Best regards, PC
#43846From: John BlairMar 23, 1993 9:46 AM
Paul, Thanks for the help! I grumbled at Warners and received an updated disk. It no longer has the MURMURS.exe, instead it has a MURMURS.bat (dated 11/09/92), a GRASPRT.exe and then MURMURS.GL. Apparently the GRASPRT.exe is a file viewer of some sort. My system should have plenty of memory (currently showing 598 K available through mem/c). The video card is made by STB for COMPUSA (called "Whiplash") and uses the S-3 chipset. In the early exploration I seem to remember clearing most of the autoexec.bat and config.sys items and trying to cause things to work. It was a modest success at best. Thanks! s/jmb
#43938From: Max MacKayMar 24, 1993 8:53 AM
John, As I asked Paul in my previous message. Have you tried using a boot disk??? Max
#43937From: Max MacKayMar 24, 1993 8:53 AM
Paul, I'm fairly new to this CDROM stuff myself. I solved most of my problems getting my multimedia programs to run by using a "boot disk". I have two, one for running under DOS and one for running under Windows. To me, it's the best way to access as much free memory as possible and a lot easier than disabling your memory manager and REMing out a bunch of lines in your CONFIG.SYS each time. So far so good! You might want to give it a try. Max