#I'm back
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Jack,
I once heard a speech by Dick Gregory at a convention where he stated that a
lot of people are on welfare including government employees, scientists,
defense workers and farmers. The more I thought about, the truer it seemed. I'm
sure a lot of soviet defense workers feel the same as their US
counterparts–bring back the cold war, and if Yeltsin goes, they may. It always
struck me as idiotic to make weapons (nukes) that no one ever wanted to really
use. The unfortunate aspect of all of this is that it will probably cost ten
times more to dismantle and dipose of all this war material than it cost to
build it. Some of the military bases were taken off the closing list simply
because the cost of returning it to private use by cleaning things up would
cost more than keeping the base open for another ten years.
Paul
Oh, I agree, the cleanup's enormous, and that's true even for non-nuclear
bases, since the military has never thought much about damage to the area.
It's always been a fact that the defense industry, since the start of WWII
at any rate, was a large blind for a massive socialist welfare program. It, not
Roosevelt's programs, finally broke the U.S. out of the Depression, and by
sustaining and fattening it over the years of the Cold War it became insurance
against another.
You might remember that this was Kennedy's second rationale for the space
program: it would provide the same level of government social welfare as
defense but do something positive, and was one of the very few things that
defense workers with defense skills could adapt to.
The idea that you can retrain a nuclear physicist to ecology or adapt a
multi-warhead missile construction and testing corporation to making affordable
housing is as laughable as expecting a brain surgeon to operate on your injured
foot or a doctor of dental surgery to do bypass operations. Things are simply
too specialized for that. Space and undersea exploration are the only two
things the defense industry and its specialties could adapt to, and in this age
of ignorance as a virtue they are dismissed as wastes of money. Hence, massive
unemployment, much of it permanent, tax bases crumble, corporations go under,
state economies teeter, and everybody blames everybody for it.
Jack,
A news report of yesterday discussed the Germans concern with our closing down
bases in their country. Unlike the Russians (whom they paid to leave) they
expect us to pay for cleanup. I guess we will have to believe Al Gore when he
says that environmentalism will create new jobs, but not necessarily for the
people who created the problems.
Paul
We'll contribute, but there's no way Congress is going to pay for cleanup of
German bases! Heck, they haven't even cleaned up all their own WWII stuff, yet.