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#big open plan models

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#93386From: Gary L. AngleMar 25, 1994 8:07 AM
Jonas, I'm doing one of my first arch interiors and I've run into a problem that I wanted to ask you about. 1. The interior space dxf file although large took a long time to get into the 3d editor. when it finally arrived it was missing faces here and there, hey, no prob I just modeled some replacement parts. All is now in beautiful living color! Now for the problem…….! This is an open plan interior that has maybe 30 work stations all specified to be a certain mfg such as Steelcase. Well, I got a work station file from the furniture mfg for 2 STATIONS (desks,shelving etc) it was a zipped dwg. I unzipped it converted it to dxf then brought it up in the dialog box in editor "dxf" load and clicked ok. Well I left and came back over the next several hours finally leaving it over nite (expecting to find the China Syndrom by morning) It finally loaded and displayed 2 stations but my cursor would vanish when I moved it etc. What is wrong here? The same file in acad can be manipulated and cloned but here I can't even get it to load. this file is approx 2mb, 183 materials loaded and over 2500 objects loaded! Does acad simply use one aspect of the info in this mfg file? Why so many objects used? Couldn't the mfg have modeled these using a managable # of objects? I really want to be able to use this kind of premade model file because it reflects the product that the client is actually purchasing. Thanks,all info appreciated, Gary
#93410From: Yost GroupMar 25, 1994 9:38 AM
It sounds like you brought that file in by entity, instead of by layer or color. Hence, you got zillions of little parts. Try bringing it in by layer or color. – G
#93891From: Gary L. AngleMar 28, 1994 1:03 AM
Thanks, that was it. There goes the exotic explanation I had set aside. .. by either layer or color the file pops right up! Gary
#93939From: Yost GroupMar 28, 1994 9:06 AM
That's usually the case with importing large cad models. There are so many zillions of entities that it's useless too do it that way. – G
#93419From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Mar 25, 1994 10:29 AM
Gary, << It finally loaded and displayed 2 stations but my cursor would vanish when I moved it etc. >> very strange.. << ACAD to 3DS problems.. >> In the index of the 3ds reference manual under ".dxf" there are a number of references.. loading, merging and tips.. Are your DXF files created according to those guidelines? << faces seem to be missing.. >> Common when importing ACAD generated data. You must create the objects in a CCW order for all of the faces to show up. You can force the renderer to render 2-sided or you can use the 3DS editor-surface-normals[faceflip|element flip|object flip|object unify] pg. 7-134,135 to correct the areas in question. jonas[adesk]
#93503From: Gary K. SimMar 25, 1994 6:11 PM
Is it not Clockwise, Sir?
#93633From: MARK A. MEIERMar 26, 1994 5:22 PM
You are correct. It IS Clockwise. I've seen several people switch this around, and I was sure it was CCW myself. I just tested it again. I was wrong. CW it is! Mark