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#Oxxi Modula-2?

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#45917From: Harry CallesisJan 11, 1992 5:32 PM
I've heard rumors that Oxxi is going to publish a Modula-2 system fairly soon. Is there any you can find out if this is true, and if so what the time frame for release is? If it makes a difference, I've also seen it referenced in a product list included with one of the other Oxxi products I have. Thanks …
#45944From: Denny Atkin [COMPUTE/AmiJan 11, 1992 11:39 PM
I wouldn't look for that M2 compiler for a LONG time. If ever.
#45964From: David CzayaJan 12, 1992 10:07 AM
Denny, I agree, but perhaps if EVERYONE writes Oxxi, maybe thay can "push" Martin along a little? M2 is stagnating and it's not the fault of the owners of the compilers… David Czaya 73445.407
#46056From: Art SteinmetzJan 13, 1992 1:34 PM
Well, look at Martin's situation. He's a full-time employee of C=. He could spend his "free" time on an M2 compiler or continuing to develop Turbotext. Clearly, TTX has a bigger market than a compiler. In retrospect I can't believe Leon F. managed to buy M2Sprint. It's not like he's sold any more copies of Benchmark as a result. Heck, if I'd have known, I'd have lent some $ to keep the product in the hands of someone who'd keep it going. All those development man-hours. Down the tubes. <sigh> — Art
#46061From: David CzayaJan 13, 1992 2:39 PM
I think I can understand Martin;s position (as much as I know of it). Perhaps he should sell what he has already done to someone who could finish the project rather than let an 80% complete system lie dormant. I don't know what the logic was behind the buyout of M2Sprint. All I know is that I'm pretty well upset with the purchase of (now) 3 M2 packages and absolutely no support whatsoever. Not even new defs for 2.04. Not even bug fixes (like the fp conversion routines). Benchmark could have been and should have been the TurboPascal of the Amiga, but the marketing was completely botched. It had a lot of potential. Hey, not EVERYONE likes to tear their hair out with C. It STILL could be if the package was supported and updated properly. The debugger is outstanding and the compiler only needs some improvements like optimizations and make it produce standard object files. What's this about a HiSoft Pascal? Have you heard anything? David Czaya
#46082From: Harry CallesisJan 13, 1992 7:35 PM
David – There has been a HiSoft Pascal advertised in British Amiga mags that's supposed to be a more-or-less clone of Turbo Pascal (integrated environment, interactive source-level debugger, etc. – at least if my memory's any good …). I've talked to my local dealer, and he called his distributor while I was there. Seems it's not available over here quite yet, though he did ask if I would buy the British version if he got it. I said I didn't want to commit until I'd seen the package (I've already got two languages and ARexx … 8^) ). But it sounds like something I won't be able to pass up when it hits. Harry
#46104From: David CzayaJan 13, 1992 11:41 PM
Very interesting indeed. I'll have to do some letter writing soon. I presume this is the same company that does the HiSoft Basic, right? I wonder how advanced it is… David Czaya
#46189From: dan barberJan 14, 1992 9:07 PM
Hi! I am an owner of Benchmark M2 and thought I would add a comment or two about this. I received a notice that Oxxi was publishing a M2 compiler (Titan M2?). I called them before Christmas to see if it would be available, and they said maybe sometime in '92. I also inquired about their Titan Ada. They said that they gave that project up. I also called Leon F. to find out if he was upgrading BM2 for 2.0. He said he was. Hope that helps! Dan Barber
#46261From: David CzayaJan 15, 1992 3:24 PM
I wrote Oxxi several months ago inquiring about their new Modula II (which is the proper name, I believe). No reply whatsoever. 29 cents is hard to come by, I guess. Did Leon say he was updating the whole package or just supplying us with 2.0 defs? I mean, that compiler is good, but it's showing it's age. The editor is, well, emacs and I can think of a dozen other things that could and need to be done to keep it up with Manx/Lattice. If it doesn't compete technically, it won't compete financially. David Czaya
#45991From: Harry CallesisJan 12, 1992 4:25 PM
I know, but David's right – it doesn't hurt to ask. And it sure would be nice to have a product available that the makers of a lesser package couldn't buy and squelch.