CompuServe Thread

#FIGHT BACK!

8 messages in this thread
#188624From: mario AzzopardiMar 12, 1995 8:34 AM
"Isn't that the same Jim Drew who's been selling his 486/586 emulation mode for the Emplant for several years now – without being able to deliver?" For your info. The Emplant 586 emulation has shipped. Hopefully you'll be similarily proven wrong about everything else in your post. "Pessimism is another form of personal defeat!" and what's the other one, "No hope, no balls?!!!!" MA.
#188657From: J Saperstein/FontBankMar 12, 1995 1:54 PM
"The Emplant 586 emulation has shipped. Hopefully you'll be similarily proven wrong about everything else in your post" After how many years of being advertised and otherwise promised? You might add another to your list of aphorisms: talk is cheap. Jerry
#188696From: Wayne SteeleMar 12, 1995 4:54 PM
Jerry: >> After how many years of being advertised and otherwise promised? Almost as many as Windows 4.0/Chicago/95! <VBG> Wayne (Team OS/2)
#188713From: J Saperstein/FontBankMar 12, 1995 6:47 PM
"Almost as many as Windows 4.0/Chicago/95!" Actually, I think longer. I don't recall seeing any Microsoft ads touting Wincows95 in a current product with lines like "Soon available". The 486, Apple II, C64 "emulations available soon" have been a hallmark of Emplant advertising since the very beginning, haven't they? Maybe the Justice Department will soon have another "vaporware" case on their books. <G> Jerry
#188765From: Wayne SteeleMar 12, 1995 11:56 PM
Jerry: I must agree about Utilities Unlimited's "real soon now" promotion of the E586. Sure, they never announced an "official" release date for the product. But that doesn't change the fact that many current and potential EMPLANT owners have waited with baited breath for far too long. I get real disgusted with companies that engage in this practice. Which brings us back to Microsoft (again). If memory serves, Windows 4.0 was first promised back in October of 1993 (perhaps sooner, but that's the first time I remember hearing about it). After two years and two name changes, the public *might* get their hands on it. Repugnant. I don't know about you, but I'm tired of having my intelligence insulted by this industry. It's getting old. Wayne (Team OS/2)
#188775From: J Saperstein/FontBankMar 13, 1995 1:02 AM
"I don't know about you, but I'm tired of having my intelligence insulted by this industry. It's getting old." And I fully agree. But I still maintain there's a big difference between Apple, IBM, Microsoft and many others who simply announce that they intend to develop a product and outfits like Utilities Unlimited, SunRize and DevWare who advertise capabilities for their existing products that aren't even on the horizon. I refer specifically to Emplant's other-than-Mac emulations, SunRize's SMPTE compatibility with AmiLink and DevWare's CroutonTools. As far as I'm concerned, firms like this (and there are many more in the Windows and Macintosh environments) ought to be run out of town on a rail – followed closely by the vaporware announcers. Guess the whole industry could stand a cleanup . . . or a lynch mob. <G> Jerry
#188724From: Trent HawkinsMar 12, 1995 8:32 PM
=>After how many years of being advertised and otherwise promised? Looks like Jim is in good company. Look at how Microsloth operates <g>. Trent 'Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori'
#188750From: J Saperstein/FontBankMar 12, 1995 10:19 PM
"Looks like Jim is in good company. Look at how Microsloth operates" It ain't much of a difference, but I think there is a signifcant difference all the same between a company that simply announces the future availability of a product like Microsoft does and someone who advertises the promised enhancement as part of their advertising. But, definitely, they are the same "sell 'em a fantasy" school. Jerry