#VGA Monitor
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I was hoping someone here could answer this question for me. I have the
ability to get a monitor normally packaged with a VGA MS-DOS clone set-up
at a really good price. Since the monitor is for VGA … does this mean it
will also support the new graphic modes and/or a flickerfixer on the Amiga?
Maybe? Sometimes? Never?
I will be finding out more specifics on it … but was wondering if anybody
knew based on what I do know.
Thanks,
Rob Hilgen
It'll work fine with the Amiga 3000 or A2000 with flicker fixer.
Ben
Ben-
Thanks for your reply. I had someone else tell me that VGA
compatible doesn't necessarily mean MultiSync … does FF require
MultiSync? Will 2.0 (I guess since Commodore said it … it will be 2.0
now!) new graphics mode require multisync?
Rob Hilgen
FF needs either a multisync or VGA monitor, 2.0 is the same unless you have
a 3000, then you can get by with VGA only (but there are some wierd things
about the 1280 X 400 modes).
Ben
Leigh's Computers
The display enhancer in the 3000 and the flickerFixer in a 2000/2500 deal
with the new ECS modes in a similar way. Neither one can do anything with
"productivity mode" which is superfluous in these machines and the 1280 x
200/400 mode does not display properly. The display is actually only 640
wide showing every other pixel. In both the 3000 and a flickerFixed
2000/2500, the 1250 x 200/400 mode is available at the 23 pin connector at
NTSC scan rates. This allows it to be used for video titling applications.
Like "productivity mode", the 1280 wide mode is limited to 4 colors from a
palette of 64. Peter.
It still will force the 1280 mode out the 31khz port,too you know and if
you flick the double scan disable switch it sends it out intact ( according
to the manual anyway).
A VGA monitor will work with the flickerfixer, not without it. I suspect
it will work with the new modes, but that is speculation on my part, since
I don't have all the facts before me.
……Betty
Betty,
WARNING: We're going to have to be very careful here. I had hoped the
Amiga community would escape the IBM-format quagmire, but what with CBM
calling their flicker-fixed output a "VGA output", we're "caught".
Some monitors are now VGA-ONLY. They no longer multiscan; they depend on
you having a card that converts all the lower modes up to 31kHz. If I
understand the 3000 VGA output, it'll still flip between 15kHz and 31kHz. A
VGA-only monitor would not work.
So "VGA-monitor" is different from a "multisync that goes up to VGA
mode". I sure hope nobody gets burned by buying the wrong one when this
becomes more popular and the terms get even more interchanged.
(Stopping flag-waving)
Karl
WRONG! the A3000 clearly has a 31khz only port on it AS WELL as the
15khz/31khz port so it can use a VGA only monitor. I know, we have it and
I've read the Docs Thouroughly, have you?
Ben
Leigh's Computers
Karl,
Point well taken. I had a call today from a person with exactly that
problem. I have not yet studied closely enough to know about the rate on
the new chip, so I was unable to advise him.
Have you given any thought to which monitors will work best with the 3000?
……Betty
The 3000 has TWO monitor output prots. One outputs at VGA rates ALL THE
TIME, while the other works just like the single video out on the 2000. In
other words, it's the equivalent of having a built in flicker fixer. On my
machine at work, which has the flicker fixer, my normal Amiga video out is
free to go to a second monitor, or to a genlock, etc. Same with the 3000,
except that it's built in, and doesn't require you to take up the video
slot with an add-on.