#DTP Business Info
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I am looking to becoming a Graduate student and would like to start a
home based business to help my family and I survive. I would prefer
something computer based and have been thinking about doing some DTP. If
any of you out there are doing DTP professionally, I am interested to know
what the market is like, who are typical customers and what software
(Amiga or PC or MAC) that you use.
Michael,
You may want to check out DTPFORUM, which has a number of how-to and help
files. Though there's very little Amiga coverage, the info should still
be useful.
*** jd, using AP from LA, CA!
John,
Thanks, I will join DTPFORUM right now.
For those of you in the know, how do Amiga DTP programs compare to
programs on PC's?
We use both Aldus Pagemaker on the Mac and PC, and Professional Page on
the Amiga. Aldus for the PC is quite impressive. Mac-based DTP software
generally is mature and therefore feature-laden. This is especially true
of Quark Express. As for the Amiga, ProPage is an excellent program,
especially for the street price. Don't let the recent comments here
(including from me) dissuade you. There are some quirks in the latest
upgrade, but that's perhaps not surprising since the program is becoming
pretty sophisticated, and I'm confident Gold Disk will rectify them
shortly, as has been true in the past. The upgrades have been coming
swiftly, which suggests that the Amiga DTP market is quite competitive and
on the cutting edge.
I think Saxon Publisher, Pagestream and Pagesetter III (Professional
Page's little brother) are all high-quality programs, each with its
strengths. All handle color (and color separations) and are pretty much
full-featured. Each has its strengths and weaknesses, as do the packages
on other platforms. But the underlying platform, the Amiga, has few
weakenesses, as I'll expound upon later.
If Amiga DTP has one drawback, it is that some service bureaus (which
provide high-end output, e.g., to a Linotronic typesetter) are reluctant
to deal with Amiga files. However, they can be won over with patience, and
there are shops that do handle Amiga stuff. This is mostly a perception
problem, not a real technical problem. After all, you can output in
Postscript on the Amiga high-end DTP packages, just like on the other
platforms, and PS is pretty much PS, period. It's simply a matter of
getting your output to the bureau on the proper media. Going over a phone
line via modem solves much of this problem.
If you're going to do DTP at home and you have a Postscript laser printer
attached to your Amiga, you'll find the system extremely capable and
fast.
If you think you're going to be big into graphics as part of your DTP
operation, the Mac perhaps has the widest array of tools. However, the
smaller collection of Amiga image manipulation tools are extraordinary in
their power. I don't think anything on any other platform can touch
Imagemaster, feature for feature. Art Department Professional is quite
powerful, as well, and now we have ImageFX. Amiga scanner options are
second to none.
Finally, compare costs. The drawback of going Amiga, as I said, is that
you will be talking a slightly different language than many outside DTP
operations. But if you're self-contained, the advantage is that you get
more platform for less money. The latest Amigas are aggressively priced
given their performance capabilities. And, Amiga software tends to be
priced lower, feature for feature, than the other platforms. This is
becoming less true but it remains the case.
As for the hardware, the Amiga is still the only desktop computer that
multitasks with ease. Indeed, it is common practice for many ProPage users
to have its companion program, Professional Draw (a powerful structured
drawing program now ported over to Windows) running simultaneously. You
can point to a piece of art in a ProPage window, click on a menu item, and
instantly export it to ProDraw for fine tuning, then send it back just as
fast. Also, text editing in ProPage is fast, because you can instantly
leap to and from a handy text editor that's faster than working within the
WYSIWIG environment of ProPage itself. Seconds count in DTP, and if you
spend a lot of time on other platforms waiting for screen re-draws or
watching the cursor poke along, you'll appreciate the Amiga's high
performance ratio.
Ron,
Thanks for the info on DTP. Believe me you don't have to sell me on Amiga,
I have been an Amiga owner since 1986. I was asking about PC software
because I have a BridgeBoard also. There are some DOS programs I just have
to have.
So I guess the bottem line is something like this. I might find programs
with some more features in the DOS or MAC enviroments, but the Amiga
programs are very good and the multitasking abilities of the Amiga will be
of great use during production. I take it you think ProPage is the best
DTP program in the lot.
Can you also give me some advice on Marketing?
Mike
I'd like to add here that the most efficient way I've found to deal with
service bureaus is to pick a PC based service bureau, find out exactly
what they need, and provide it. The minute you mention the Amiga, you have
all sorts of silly objections coming up – none relevant. The modem
business is iffy – mostly because it's been my experience that people who
run service bureaus often do not understand modems. Just provide the file
on a 3.5 inch floppy, with whatever clip art and fonts may be necessary.
(You'll know what your service bureau needs after awhile, and they'll know
what you need.) The "getting acquainted process" is sort of awkward, but
this is not specific to the Amiga.
You may want to try a few shops before deciding on "your" service bureau
or printer. There seems to be sort of a personality thing that often gets
going between printers and publishers – maybe because we're all egoists.
The neatest way to go is to find someone interested enough and friendly
enough to let you get to know his shop – one who'll be candid about his
problems, and who will be willing to alert you to any possible problems he
may spot in your work. You can learn a lot from these people. (Actually,
there's probably no reason you couldn't work with a Mac shop, either. I
just never have.)…..Nancy
For the last 2.5 years I have published a monthly homebrewing
newsletter on the Amiga. I also help out on a newsletter for
clinical nurse specialists. I use PageStream, Art Expression, DPIV,
and AdPro (Pro not version). I am quite happy with the system. The
Amiga OS can't be beat.
I enter most of my text via Word Perfect; the weakest link in the system.
Writers contribute via Internet, Email, modem and PC/Mac disk. I do the
Mac and high density PC conversions at work. My only requirement I set for
those with other systems is to supply me with either ASCII or a
WordPerfect 4.2 file. Some folks try giving me a Word file which after
some editing is usable. I just wish someone would write a word processor
convert program.
I don't have too much experience with DTPs on PC's. A couple of years
back I used PageMaker for the PC. It was horribly slow, the poor ole PC
just could not keep up. Things have changed and are probably better. As
for the Mac, I have used one for scanning images. It works.
Commercial bureaus here tend to rank in order Mac, Amiga, clones.
IMO it's between Macs and Amigas, I find clones too clunky and
needing too more add-ons. Both Macs and Amigas have + & -'s but to
me Amigas are cheaper and have a little more variety.
In addition to the Amiga Forums and the DTP forum, you might find the
"Working from Home Forum" (GO WORK) helpful.
—Betty
Thanks Betty. I'll take a look there too.