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#What Is Dyanimic HiRes?

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#28154From: Doug QuinnJan 26, 1990 12:56 PM
Steve, just out of curiosity, what is a "dynamic hires"? Doug
#28166From: Thomas HoladayJan 26, 1990 2:58 PM
Dynamic HiRes ™ is an invention of NewTek. It is a resolution achieved by changing the 16-color pallette every scan line while displaying a high-resolution picture. Consequently it is possible to display all 4096 colors on a screen at once, in high resolution. The computer does not have much time to do anything else while this display is going on.
#28179From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPJan 26, 1990 7:44 PM
Hi Doug! Dynamic Hires is basically just the standard 16 color Hires (640+ across) screen, with the pallete changed on each line. It makes for some decent looking pictures, with lots of color, but no HAM artifacting, and, of course, a higher resolution. (Of course, you are limited to only 16 colors on a line, but many pictures will look good that way…) This format was first introduced on the Amiga by Newtek as part of their DigiView digitizing software, and can be viewed with Dyna-Show, which is here in LIB 1 currently. They also have a Dynamic HAM mode which is basically the same idea applied to HAM mode. (Although there seem to be some differences between Dynamic HAM, and SHAM, the latter of which was the first format to use the same basic technique…) –>Steve Bennett
#28175From: Erik FlomMar 27, 1993 1:34 AM
I have heard from 2 sources (CNN & Computer Chronicles) that NewTek has announced a 'Mac Clone'?!?!?!? Maybe we'll actually see a MacToaster at NAB . . . Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#28181From: Paul ToalMar 27, 1993 6:47 AM
That's Nutek. California. –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#28196From: Erik FlomMar 27, 1993 4:41 PM
Ahhh, that sounds like the name of the company I heard of a few years back (now that you mention it). Oh well, I'll still be curious to see if it actually gets sold, and if so, what it will do to the Mac market . . . Thanks, Erik Flom
#28184From: Michael GerardMar 27, 1993 9:30 AM
Erik, A company called Nutek (unrelated to NewTek) announced a year ago that they had reverse engineered MAC ROM chips and were planning on using these to release MAC clones. It's been in litigation (or at least discovery) for some time. I hadn't heard of any resolution yet.
#28197From: Erik FlomMar 27, 1993 4:41 PM
Thanks for the clarification, it didn't seem like the sort of thing 'NewTek' would be doing anyway. (Now that you mention it, I remember hearing of them a few years back.) Like I said to someone else, I'll be curious to see what happens with it . . . Thanks again, Erik Flom
#28199From: John DowdellMar 27, 1993 5:07 PM
Like Paul says, the Mac clone maker is NuTek, a California/Taiwan firm — I had gotten it confused with the Kansas folks myself — but if NuTek starts making a Toaster clone, then good gosh, I'll be confused again! Coupla interesting things on the NuTek story: It's not only a Mac emulator, but a PC emulator too. They re-created the Mac's ROM chips by analyzing its functions — I think this is the first time someone's been able to do fast firmware emulation without using ROMs from dead boxes. And also, it will be interesting to see how they do financially — prices on all 3 desktop platforms have fallen significantly since NuTek started the project. On another topic: does anyone know where we'll be able to find press releases from NAB? I'm looking forward to the announcements. Thanks, jd
#28239From: Hilary SzymanowskiMar 28, 1993 2:32 PM
Erik. As I understand it, there has been some hookup which allows the Mac and Amiga/Toaster to work in unison. The Toaster board remains in the Amiga, but control is from the Mac. If a special arrangement could be made whereby the Toaster hardware would fit and operate in a PC 386/486, think its application in an Amiga would evaporate. I was very surprised to know that the Amiga-4000 and Toaster would NOT operate together. One would think that Commodore would come up with some "fix" to allow this – as it would then add considerably more sales potential. It is also a pity that Commodore have not designed a machine which can be updated by the customer – rather than having to buy a new model. This is the trend it some of the newer PC motherboards. Probably we shall see the new video/Toaster related products emerge in the NAB show in about 2/3 week's time. It should be interesting. Best regards, HILARY.
#28245From: Jonathan BlackwellMar 28, 1993 4:02 PM
"Why doesn't the Toaster work in the A4000?" Well, the answer is that NewTek did NOT follow the specs as outlined by CBM. Commodore did nothing malicious. -Jonathan
#28295From: Erik FlomMar 29, 1993 1:22 PM
Thanks for the reply. My confusion about the 'NewTek Mac Clone' resulted from the fact that I heard the name mentioned on 2 TV shows, but wasn't watching the tube at the time, so I didn't realize that it was 'NuTech' (an entirely different company) that had released a 'Mac Clone' chipset. My comments about people 'finally getting the MacToaster they'd been waiting for' was said with tongue firmly in cheek. :^) As for the A4000 & the Toaster . . . . Is it any surprise? (spoken as a long-time Amiga evangalist.) Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom P.S. April 4th, the day we find out how much we'll have to cough up for the 'big upgrade' to 3.0. :^)
#28406From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPMar 31, 1993 8:24 PM
There is a front end program which runs on the Mac which can remotely control a Toaster in the Amiga. I believe they also have a front end for the PC too. But the odds of seeing a Toaster which could plug into the PC directly is pretty near zero, from what I've heard. Since the Toaster is intimately connected to the Amiga custom chips, you'd pretty much need to stick an Amiga on the same board as the Toaster to fit it into a PC… The reason the Toaster doesn't work with the A4000, I believe, is due to the radically changed new AGA Amiga chipset. The toaster has always been timing sensitive, so the new chipset probably confused it thoroughly. I'm hoping less for a fix from Commodore than perhaps a redesigned Toaster from NewTek. It *is*, after all, several years old and quite probably due for a redesign anyway. And now they can rebuild it. They can make it better, stronger, faster… (And charge more for it at the same time… <evil grin>) Should be interesting to see what happens at NAB, if anything… As for Commodore desiging machines which are upgradable by the Customer… They've been doing it since the A2000, which was, at it's time, one of the most upgradable machines ever made, which is one reason it *still* is being sold almost 6 years later… The 3000 wasn't quite as good at that job, but the 4000 is even better, IMHO. –>Steve Bennett
#28423From: john bennettApr 1, 1993 4:26 PM
Still waiting for the DEC Alpha chip set Upgrade for my A2000 040 Toaster sys……..:^) Just Kidding, I think. I'd probably go with an A4000 and its 90's design if Newtek would comply, but paybacks are a bitch, and CBM deserves it kinda. I'd say, Newtek wants to sell Workstations with their names on 'em, but can't get a good enough price (Deal) YET on the systems from CBM. They won't get burned again. ….John
#28464From: Vince PilgrimApr 2, 1993 2:28 PM
Steve, forgive my intrusion, but I wish to address a question or two concerning the Toasters and NTSC video work. I pulled the only file that I could locate that indicated it was digitized from an analog video source, CADIMA.JPG, to try and get a feel for the image quality of same in comparison to something we have been doing with PC mode machines, sourcing from an external TBC and feeding a 24 bit 640 x 480 frame as an isolated field back through same, allowing the TBC to perform the transcoding back to a fully interlaced NTSC signal. Is the referenced image representative of the analog to digital conversions performed by the Toasters? Are there some more NTSC/PAL sourced examples floating around the libraries that I missed? And, is all image processing within the Toasters, and Amigas, performed with linear gamma? Appreciate any information you could provide or point me to in this area.
#28469From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPApr 2, 1993 6:41 PM
Unfortunately, it's difficult to say which files come from what source. I'd say a good portion of the images here online come from a digitized NTSC source (there are quite a few hardware items which can digitize from video on the Amiga…) but I truthfully haven't a clue as to which ones. Perhaps some of our other members can help you better… –>Steve Bennett