CompuServe Thread

#I'm back

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#46338From: Paul KudlachApr 20, 1993 1:02 AM
Adrian, I don't see any movement in the U. S. to raise speed limits. America is concerned with saving lives but not necessarily with saving nerves. Paul
#46402From: Adrian Godfrey [D]Apr 20, 1993 4:21 PM
Paul, Higher speed limits don't equate with more accidents. In fact the reverse is probably true as the traffic finds its own level rather than being forced together. Even the official figures still show motorways are the safest roads to drive on. Speeding tickets raise too much revenue; that's why the actual limits won't be made more realistic<g> Adrian
#46445From: Bob StarrettApr 21, 1993 12:14 AM
I'm a little confused here. Is this a CD-ROM forum or an international politics forum?
#46472From: Jack L. ChalkerApr 21, 1993 5:50 AM
Well, it's pretty much anything the regulars want to make it, isn't it? If you have a CD ROM question, I'm sure folks here would be happy to answer it (most of us are veterans of betas and multimedia stuff and all that) and if you have a question for Nautilus they'll happily answer it here. The rest of the discussion is, you're right, not germane, but that's true in a lot of forums. What we try and do is keep the thread titles clearly unrelated to CDs and multimedia so that folks can skip the threads if they're not interested in joining the discussion. You should be using something like TAPCIS or OZCIS anyway (just for the sake of your bank account) which allow you to download just the thread titles and mark which ones you really want to read offline. Digressions on various topics are the price paid for having experts around when you need them. When they're not needed, they tend to talk anything but shop.
#46571From: Bob StarrettApr 21, 1993 10:00 PM
Thanks you so much for the advice. I am very new to telecommunications and still trying to decide whether to get my own account. I am currentl using Bob Starrett's (my business partner) account, and the bill for this month will help me to decide. I tell you this so that you know that he is not the author of these comments. It's also nice to know where I can find the experts to answer my humble CD-ROM questions. Dana Parker co-author of "Technology Edge: Guide to CD-ROM", former Meridian Data Senior Technical Support Engineer, and CD-ROM Professional magazine columnist <g> <g> <g>
#46614From: Jack L. ChalkerApr 22, 1993 5:40 AM
Fine; join the club, then, and answer everybody else's questions. The key isn't just the bill; the key is to use BBS management software that limits that bill and also allows you to manage your own time. TAPCIS is my own choice; it logs on, downloads my EMail and all the forum messages I'm interested in at 9600 baud, then logs off. Then, when I have the time in my schedule, I call it up, go through them all, read the ones that interest me, answer the ones I want, etc. Then I hit a key and it's all uploaded to the right places. It means I can monitor a half-dozen forums and a few more sections of same and generally do all that there's a charge for in about 3 minutes a day maybe every other day. If I need to go to a forum for specific info that I'm not usually in, I just download the thread titles and go through and mark the ones I'm interested in. The next time I log on, only those threads are downloaded. You can spend a fortune on this thing (particularly CI$, which is by far the most expensive of the services) but you can also do more than you have time for on the cheap.
#46676From: Bob StarrettApr 22, 1993 9:29 PM
Gentlemen, thank you for your replies. I may have been hasty in my responses, but I appreciate your insight into Photo CD and it's place in the CD-ROM industry. I am in the position of teaching CD-ROM to potential publishers of CD-ROM, and it is very annoying to be interrupted in mid-spiel with the question: "What about Photo CD?" even though what the potential client has in mind (full text, fielded data, and graphics, with perhaps a few images) is more suited to regular old CD-ROM. Kodak has, in their advertising, confused the issue to the point where potential CD-ROM publishers think that the only way to display images from compact disc is to use Photo CD. You and i both know that this is incorrect. Often, the case is that the ONLY CD-ROM technology the customer has heard about is Photo CD. I think this is unfortunate, after all the years we in the CD-ROM industry have spent being evangelists for our technology, its capacity, versatility, and cross-platform capability. Once again, please be aware that this is not Bob, but Dana speaking. Bob is allowing me to use his account (and I'm gonna pay, Lord, how I'm pay) until and IF I get my own. And yes, I see many questions here that I could answer, but having spent so much time in tech support, I'm glad that I am no longer required to do so. Dana Parker
#46677From: Bob StarrettApr 22, 1993 9:31 PM
Where can I get TAPCIS? Regards, Dana
#46773From: Adrian Godfrey [D]Apr 24, 1993 4:38 AM
Bob, Navigation programs are available as follows: AUTOSIG (free) GO IBMCOM OzCIS (free) GO IBMCOM TapCIS (shareware ca $79 registration) GO TAPCIS There are others, but I think the above are the most commonly used. I use Autosig myself, and the other two I've got just in case I ever need them<g> Adrian
#46732From: Lynne EllinwoodApr 23, 1993 2:40 PM
Bob, Another reason to get TAPCIS: a couple of days ago, my mail came down in a garbled transmission, so I posted a note to the TAPCIS sysops. They directed me to the _undocumented_ CIS "Retain" feature, that will keep your retrieved mail for 48 hours. (TAPCIS 5.4 "Alt-P" will select this feature automatically.) With "Retain" active, you can recover a "lost" transmission by using Interactive to Go Mail, and then typing "Undelete" at the !prompt. You can then scan the retained messages. Without TAPCIS, I'd never have learned about this "safety net." TAPCIS is the best bargain available on CompuServe. Lynne
#46774From: Adrian Godfrey [D]Apr 24, 1993 4:38 AM
Lynne, Thanks for sharing that information. As it's a CI$ command, it's useful for non-TAPCIS users to know as well. Adrian
#46800From: Lynne EllinwoodApr 24, 1993 3:54 PM
Adrian, Now that I've used "Retain" once, it looks like I should add the rest of the instructions: to recover a lost message, you Go Mail, type "undelete" at the ! prompt, then "scan all." If you want to recapture the message(s), you can log off and use TAPCIS to "Go Mail" again. You can delete messages that you don't want to retrieve by typing "delete msg. #" before logging off. Something is going haywire with my TAPCIS/CIS connections from time to time–now I think it is a CIS node, but I'm still figuring it all out. At least I won't lose any more mail! Lynne P.S. to Dana: Sorry about addressing my prior note to "Bob," after you'd made a point of telling us who's speaking …
#46911From: Adrian Godfrey [D]Apr 26, 1993 4:43 AM
Thanks again. I have occasional problems with Frankfurt node, but I haven't actually lost anything yet<KOW> Adrian
#46590From: David GleasonApr 22, 1993 12:51 AM
Speaking of which, the "I'm back" title for this thread may well be one of the longest running I have seen in years on CIS! But I digress.
#46615From: Jack L. ChalkerApr 22, 1993 5:40 AM
Well, why not? After all, nobody's going to mistake a thread with a name like that for anything about Nautilus or CD ROMs, are they?
#46684From: David GleasonApr 22, 1993 9:54 PM
And all the time I thought the "back" part had something to do with a Chiropractor who started it…
#46686From: Bob StarrettApr 22, 1993 10:00 PM
I, of course, disagree. But then, that is my nature, to disagree. "I'm back" is misleading. Could be somebody who is looking for exactly what my company offers, and has found no solution yet. Whydon't you rename this thread "Digressions"? Dana
#46845From: Jack L. ChalkerApr 25, 1993 5:31 AM
Because somebody could read "digressions" and think we were just digressing on Nautilus subjects, which we often do….
#46733From: Lynne EllinwoodApr 23, 1993 2:40 PM
Jack, Well, I'm back, so the thread title is appropriate. Two items possibly of interest to you: (1) my husband will probably install Windows NT this weekend (March release), and has been instructed to look for the TIGA driver; and (2) I cancelled Prodigy because it is going to start charging by the hour for connecting to the bulletin boards. You're no lover of Prodigy, I know, but I thought you might be interested. Delphi should pick up some share of the Prodigy refugees. BTW, Prodigy claims that only about 10% of Prodigy subscribers actually use the bulletin boards. Lynne
#46846From: Jack L. ChalkerApr 25, 1993 5:31 AM
Yeah, well, Prodigy keeps getting more and more expensive and you still get the ads! I have several services I find useful for different things: DELPHI is friendly and is great for online "live" stuff, has great email, and very cheap ($2.50 a month) access to the Internet. BiX I use mainly for its Windows forums and to bug Pournelle. I was on the verge of canceling the very Prodigy-like (but no ads!) America On Line when it suddenly began to explode with a lot of libraries and PC downloads and the like and is becoming interesting. GEnie is also extremely popular and extremely cheap.
#46892From: Lynne EllinwoodApr 25, 1993 9:53 PM
Jack, You're so right about Prodigy getting expensive. With the ads and graphics, it is so slow that you can easily stay connected for 30-60 hours a month, or more (at 9600 bps). At even $0.50 an hour, our household would have spent $14.95 plus $30, minimum, per month. Not a good deal! In fact, the Prodigy bulletin board surcharges will be much higher: something that reduces to $3.60/hour for 6 or more hours of monthly usage, I think. They're talking about making a bulletin board downloader available, but they have _no_ plans to drop the ads from the timed-usage areas. (!) Actually, the Prodigy execs did me a favor: I knew I was wasting time online with Prodigy, but hadn't realized that so _much_ time was getting away. And I wasn't even having fun. I was answering beginners' questions, to pay back some of the help I've received online, but Prodigy members' constant complaining gets to you after a while. Yesterday I went looking for "refugees" and found some in the Helpforum, still complaining. (Ed Giroux is an understanding sysop.) Anyway, they'll assimilate fairly fast. Many Prodigy bb users have spoken well of AOL. Many will go there, and lots will go to GEnie, which I've tried. However, GEnie is overloaded in Northern California. The system halts all the time, and you may wait 2-3 minutes for a prompt, before you can even log off. It's really hard to learn navigation, too, with the system stopped all the time. I figured it wasn't worth the trouble, and cancelled out. Lynne
#46735From: Lynne EllinwoodApr 23, 1993 2:40 PM
David, Nahh, we don't get any "longest-running" honors. There's a thread on the MECA Forum called "Two Old Men" that's been running since before MECA opened a forum on CIS. It got transferred from IBMAPPS . . . The thread does seem to have outlasted Kevin, who started it, though. Hope he returns before long. Lynne
#46603From: Adrian Godfrey [D]Apr 22, 1993 2:17 AM
Bob, AFAIK it's a CDROM forum<g>. Threads drift here like they do everywhere else on Compuserve though, so if you didn't come in at the beginning of the thread, you won't have seen how the subject varied over time. This thread will now probably go on to the general theme of thread drift<g> and in another couple of days we'll be talking about something completely different, even though the subject title is still the same. Adrian