CompuServe Thread

#CBM News Wrapup

29 messages in this thread
#140089From: SyndesisApr 21, 1994 7:17 PM
Anyone care to post a quick summary of the last two weeks' news about Commodore's state? I just read the last few days of messages, and didn't find enough meat *or* rumors. 🙂
#140107From: Steve AhlstromApr 21, 1994 9:19 PM
John, There isn't anything to summarize. The rumor mill rolls along with faery tales … HP bought them, Sony bought them, Philips bought them, Tom Arnold bought them but Roseanne made him give it back, etc.
#140144From: Richard EricksonApr 22, 1994 12:52 AM
Really, Tom Arnold bought them??? That could explain why they want a divorce. 🙂 Richard -> AutoPilot on the A1000
#140111From: David GillespieApr 21, 1994 9:57 PM
Commodore stocks are down to .875$, NYSE has droped them because they don't deal in penny stocks and everyone is just waiting for the other shoe to fall personally I hope someone buys them out. ANYONE could have managed Amiga better!
#140204From: Paul TylerApr 22, 1994 1:57 PM
Yeah david maybe you're right but will anyone want to pick up the ball after Commodore have fumbled it and fumbled it and fumbl… etc STARFIRE cruising the stratosphere MOTOROLA 040 and AUTOPILOT ENGAGED!
#140608From: Marion J DelandApr 24, 1994 8:47 PM
Maybe, if it gets cheap enough! I'm afraid though that whoever buys the technology will just dump the existing Amigas and start over with something new that's not compatible with anything we already have. Just ignore me–it's Sunday night and I'm feeling pessimistic! Marion Publisher, CROSSINGS (Newsletter for Amiga/PC/Mac compatibility)
#140252From: Jeff SchweigerApr 22, 1994 8:38 PM
David – I haven't checked today, yet, but last time I checked, Commodore was still listed on the NYSE, just not trading there. Jeff Schweiger
#140474From: Wayne ColeApr 24, 1994 2:27 AM
I think it closed at $1.00 today or yesterday. wmc – via Autopilot!
#140489From: Chris LesterApr 24, 1994 7:35 AM
Let me see… It closes at $1.00, so they resume trading on the NYSE. Buyers sell out, it drops below a buck, and they suspend trading again. Via other exchanges, it slowly creeps back up to a buck, and they resume NYSE trading again. Am I following this correctly? <g> Chris – Fast and Low on my '020! …Is it significant that my spell checker doesn't know "Intel"?
#140496From: Jeff SchweigerApr 24, 1994 9:00 AM
Chris – Commodore stock is trading on other exchanges, and OTC, not on the NYSE at present. It is still listed on the NYSE, but has not opened for trading there since March 25. The last Commodore (CBU) trade on the NYSE closed at 3 on March 25. Jeff Schweiger
#140507From: Chris LesterApr 24, 1994 12:41 PM
Thanks for keeping me straight on that! Chris – Fast and Low on my '020! …Is it significant that my spell checker doesn't know "Intel"?
#140653From: J Saperstein/FontBankApr 24, 1994 10:52 PM
"It closes at $1.00, so they resume trading on the NYSE." As far as I know, Commodore stock is not trading on the NYSE and the reason for this is because Commodore may have fallen below the minimum financial requirements to be listed. Thus, unless Commodore itself held a huge block of freely tradable stock in itself, the stock price makes no difference in their being restored to NYSE trading. RIght now, if my information is correct, Commodore is being traded only on the regional exchanges. A single sale at $1 is a possibility, but sure as heck not necessarily the start of a trend or anything. Commodore would have to announce some really major good news to create much of a demand for their stock. Even the presence of a buyer for the company would probably not make any difference in the price of the stock since such news would have to be disclosed publicly literally as soon as an agreement was reached. If Commodore stock starts trading at ever-increasing prices without any kind of major, favorable announcement, you can bet there will an insider=trading investigation. In terms of someone trying to acquire stock on the open market in anticipation of making some kind of offer, they have to start reporting to the SEC as soon as they accumulate 5% of the shares. I think Commodore has 33,000,000 shares outstanding, so someone would have to pick up 1,650,000 shares to get to that point – an incredibly huge buy for a stock trading on regional exchanges. Bottom-line: if there is good news for Commodore on the horizon, it has to be made public before or just about at the same time you see any significant uptick in their stock price. A single transaction at a buck doesn't quite fit that pattern, especially when the trading volume isn't known. Jerry
#140866From: Wayne ColeApr 26, 1994 1:27 AM
Go Basiquotes and ask for CBU. Either it is trading or CIS and all the newspapers that I looked at the weeks closing stocks in are lying. wmc – via Autopilot!
#140871From: J Saperstein/FontBankApr 26, 1994 2:07 AM
"Either it is trading or CIS and all the newspapers that I looked at the weeks closing stocks in are lying." It's never stopped trading on the regionals. Only on the NYSE. Jerry
#141063From: Wayne ColeApr 27, 1994 1:25 AM
I thought the BasicQuotes was from NYSE and the closing quote in the paper was under the NYSE heading, I believe. wmc – via Autopilot!
#141064From: J Saperstein/FontBankApr 27, 1994 1:30 AM
I don't know about BasicQuote, but I've seen absolutely nothing to indicate that Commodore stock has resumed trading on the NYSE. Someone else may have more recent information. Jerry
#141231From: Wayne ColeApr 28, 1994 1:57 AM
Jerry, Well, I checked the news item on it referred to from basiquotes but it was so terse and I'm know economics/financial wiz, I didn't know what it meant. Maybe it was a suspension, but it was dated at 2:30 PM Friday (I checked it last night). You may be 100% correct. But the papers and CIS certainly don't make it clear to the neophyte like me. wmc – via Autopilot!
#140876From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPApr 26, 1994 2:41 AM
It is NOT trading on the NYSE which is where it is listed. That does not prevent it from being traded on secondary markets. Those are the trades you see reflected in the volume when you GO QQUOTES… and if you'll notice, when you read the news stories attached to the QQUOTE of CBU, teh NYSE announces each day those stocks that are NOT available for trading.
#140953From: Jim Drew/UUIApr 26, 1994 5:07 PM
Great… I own .29% of Commodore… only 1,550,000 more shares to go! 😉
#141008From: Paul HigginbottomApr 26, 1994 9:25 PM
You have 100,000 shares of Commodore? Boy – I hope you like Maalox.
#141145From: Zeddock MillerApr 27, 1994 5:09 PM
Hey I have some too! I bought 8 shares about 2 years ago… Just for the heck of it! Anybody else want to comment on how many shares of C= are represented on CServe? Zeddock
#141173From: Paul HigginbottomApr 27, 1994 8:56 PM
8 shares is to walking across the road as 100,000 shares is to jumping off a cliff with a towel for a parachute.
#141239From: Wayne ColeApr 28, 1994 2:35 AM
1,000 here – "hey I thought CD32 was supposed to be a hot seller!!" wmc – via Autopilot!
#141084From: Dale LarsonApr 27, 1994 6:42 AM
Are you the one who did the large buy a week or two ago? Some one individual bought 100k+ in a single day and I've been wondering who… — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing — INTERNET:dale@iam.com
#141217From: Jim Drew/UUIApr 28, 1994 12:55 AM
Well, the stock was purchased all at once, a few weeks ago.. so, I guess that was me. 🙂
#140680From: Wayne ColeApr 25, 1994 1:24 AM
Chris, I have to admit to not following it all that closely, but I was under the impression that it was only suspended for a couple of days due to an "imbalance" in sellers to buyers. Then as far as I knew it went back on sale at 5/8 and slowly climbed over a couple of weeks to 1.00. I was not aware of any repeated suspensions. wmc – via Autopilot!
#140725From: J Saperstein/FontBankApr 25, 1994 12:17 PM
Wayne: Commodore announced in March that trading in its stock on the NYSE had been suspended because it may have fallen below the financial requirements for listed. A Commodore official, Hock Tan, later said that the suspension would be only temporary. On the same day or shortly thereafter, Commodore issued another press release stating that Mr. Tan was in error. As far as I know, Commodore stock has not traded on the NYSE since late March. Jerry
#140758From: Richard EricksonApr 25, 1994 4:43 PM
You have the right sequence of events, just the wrong people. It was Jeff Porter that stated trading should resume in only a matter of a couple of days. Later that day in a phone interview Hock Tan reversed Porter's statement and said trading would not resume, and gave no time estimate as to when it would resume. Richard -> Autopilot on the A1000
#140761From: J Saperstein/FontBankApr 25, 1994 5:05 PM
Thanks for the corrections, Richard. Jerry