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#SCSI PAR a go-go!

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#161588From: Scott LawrenceMar 29, 1995 5:29 PM
FYI Dept… I was informed by DPS today that the new SCSI PAR "will be available in 30 days"! Pricing has not yet been determined. -Scott Lawrence
#161624From: Kevin A. McClaughryMar 29, 1995 7:45 PM
Scott, I'm excited to hear that PAR is going SCSI. I am feeling a bit burnt since I called them a couple of weeks back and spoke with one of their reps asking specifically if they were going to be coming out with a SCSI version- especially since we were going to be buying a completely new computer system and wanted to buy the best stuff for it. After I got off the phone it was clear to me that I would have to purchase IDE drives (I went with the Micropolis 2217A's) in order to run the PAR board on my system. And now this information comes out. I wish I had gotten a name from the rep who fed me the bad info. You'd think employees within a company would be aware of a product coming out so soon. Well, maybe a good side effect will be that the IDE version of the PAR will come down in price once the SCSI version becomes the new flagship of the company. Anyhoo, thanks for the tidbit… See Ya, Kevin
#161678From: Scott LawrenceMar 30, 1995 2:30 AM
Getting information from them is like pulling teeth! You really have to be persistant, or they'll give you the cold shoulder treatment. Maybe they're understaffed or something…I don't know. As for the price of the IDE dropping? I wouldn't be surprised if they just priced the SCSI higher, at least until the competition catches up with them (won't be long now). Of course, alot of guys will want to unload their IDE's and buy SCSI's, so you could get a deal that way. -Scott
#161761From: David J. MarksMar 30, 1995 1:29 PM
>> especially since we were going to be buying a completely new computer Hi Kevin! So is your new system up and running yet? Drop me a line in either the Take 5 section (Message area #12) or by e-mail and let me know how things are going out there. Have you been taking advantage of the forum? (See, I TOLD YOU how useful it is!) Stay in touch. – Dave
#161997From: James M. MurphyMar 31, 1995 4:58 PM
Geezz Scott, I just talked to tech. support yesterday and they wouldn't tell me anything about this and I'm a Dealer! Who told you this? Murph'
#162010From: Scott LawrenceMar 31, 1995 5:42 PM
Murph, >>I just talked to tech. support yesterday and they wouldn't tell me anything about this and I'm a Dealer! << There was a time when I worked for a P.I. as an investigative photographer . His motto was: "There's more than one way to skin a cat!" He refused to take 'no' for an answer. Guess it rubbed off on me! -Scott (Just call me Rockford!)
#162239From: James M. MurphyApr 2, 1995 12:07 AM
Actually I called em' back and they quoted the PR stuff that's mailing in the New Boxes of PAR Boards now shipping….Whoop…Whoop! <BG> Murph'
#162304From: MARTIN G FOSTERApr 2, 1995 1:02 PM
Jim, >> Actually I called em' back and they quoted the PR stuff that's mailing in the New Boxes of PAR Boards now shipping << could you regurgitate the quote, please?
#162682From: James M. MurphyApr 4, 1995 12:28 AM
I'll try and go from Memory. 10 bit, I could have sworn they said 720 x 486 or maybe it was 752 x 486 resolution, CCIR601 was in there so I think that's 720 x 486. There was mention of PCI for the Board and using SCSI Drives. Sounded pretty good! <BG> Murph'
#162734From: Don LandisApr 4, 1995 10:10 AM
James, the bottom line here is not whether the new PAR uses SCSI but what will be the new BLF factors and ultimate compression ratios with present SCSI drives? Also what will be the new record QF with the TBC IV? the best I get now is only 15 with any regularity. Would be nice to get 23 and BLF's of 300 or so for video frame grabs. This is what will make me sit up and take notice, not whether it is PCI or SCSI or nubus etc. !
#162805From: John EllisApr 4, 1995 12:52 PM
Hey Don, Heard any word on newer faster IDE's for the PAR, there's quite a few out there and I'm wondering how this is going to be addressed. I think the SCSI solution is going to be significantly higher cost wise, which could keep the IDE PAR in good stead for alot of people, provided there are newer faster replacements. Seems however, 1 bit per disk arrays are becoming increasingly popular, with falling prices as well… Just curious as I know you've got an interest in all this… John
#162937From: Don LandisApr 4, 1995 11:27 PM
I've been watching and the only thing I've heard lately is Mode 5, ie 11megs XSFR rate is scheduled for June or July release from WD. I'll be at Comdex in a few weeks and I plan to do some asking around.
#162968From: John EllisApr 5, 1995 2:22 AM
>> Mode 5, ie 11megs… << Sounds good Don. It would seem that there are more than a few setups that could benefit from these kinds of performance figures, like D/Vision and Fast systems. John
#163087From: Don LandisApr 5, 1995 4:47 PM
>>like D/Vision and Fast systems. Fast uses SCSI II or SCSI wide on their DPR.
#162800From: MARTIN G FOSTERApr 4, 1995 12:47 PM
Jim, >> 10 bit, 720 x 486, PCI for the Board and using SCSI Drives. << excellent! I may be able to get one for our shop. I particularly like the move to 720×486, which is more in line with the work we are doing. The move to SCSI drives is good, to allow greater supply of drives. Martin
#162942From: David WhiteApr 5, 1995 12:04 AM
I just posted the FAQ for the Perception Video Recorder in the hardware lib section. I have seen some wrong info here, so you should check the FAQ. BTW the ship date is in June. Dave White Advanced Product Manager Digital Processing Systems
#162943From: MARTIN G FOSTERApr 5, 1995 12:24 AM
Dave, >> I just posted the FAQ for the Perception Video Recorder in the hardware lib section. << good idea and thanks very much. Better to stop the speculation and upload the facts.
#162407From: Scott LawrenceApr 3, 1995 12:21 AM
>>…they quoted the PR stuff that's mailing in the New Boxes of PAR Boards now shipping<< ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ Are you saying that they are *now* shipping the SCSI units or that they are promoting the SCSI version in the IDE board boxes?!? You lost me! -Scott
#162973From: James M. MurphyApr 5, 1995 2:34 AM
I beleive you meant to address this to someone else but I'll answer. I'ts supposed to be shipping in the current boxes of the the regular Par units. The Notice, not a new type of unit. Murph'
#162021From: Tim Krego, [pro.image]Mar 31, 1995 7:25 PM
>>>I just talked to tech. support yesterday and they wouldn't tell me anything about this and I'm a Dealer! Who told you this?<<< DPS has info in the boxes of current shipping PARS. The new product is called Perception Video. It is PCI based, SCSI and uses 10bit encoding.
#162050From: MARTIN G FOSTERMar 31, 1995 11:57 PM
Tim, >> The new product is called Perception Video. It is PCI based, SCSI and uses 10bit encoding << that sounds awesome! I can't wait to see/hear more. Maybe they'll be showing it at NAB. Unfortunately, I probably can't go because of production commitments.
#162240From: James M. MurphyApr 2, 1995 12:07 AM
Yup, I just called them back and got the standard quote! <BG> Murph'