#WWW here on CIS ???
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I read in the paper this morning that compuserve is offering internet access
through the WEB.
Can someone tell me how I can do this with my Amiga??
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards
G.E. "OB" O'Brien Pensacola, Florida
Set up AmiTCP 4.0Demo (or preferably, buy the package).. Get PPP1.30 (I'm not
sure if it is in the libs, if its not I'll upload it), AMosaic v1.2 plus any
other nifty things you might like to use, FTP, telnet, gopher, IRC and off you
go. A PPP connection such as the one CompuServe is now offering, will allow you
to do virutally anything on the 'net.
I have it set up and working at home. Works great!
-Andre
Andre,
I have AmiTCP4.0 demo,PPC v1.23, AMosaic v1.2, ect (all in the libs here).
Can you give us a blow by blow on how to set up and use this stuff on
compuserve? I have seen Mosaic & AmyTCP in action and it looks awesome!
..Steve
Cruising on Autopilot
from beautiful Coastal South Carolina
HI steve,
it isn't that difficult to set AmiTCP up. I knew NOTHING about it but anyhow I
got it working. Get AmiTCP 4.0, PPP 1.30 and AMosaic1.2. Start the Installer.
It asks for the default user which I answered with Jochen. The script then sets
this user up, asks for realname password… Then come the important things: It
asks wether your connection is dynamic, answer with yes. Enter Your Domain
name: compuserve.com Select the network interface type to be used: PPP Select
the network interface to be used: PPP … a default IP address for the
interface ppp0 … : 0.0.0.0 Give the destination address for the
point-to-point interface ppp0:
149.174.64.25 Bypass the networkmask by giving an emptystring
This is the information you gave for this interface: Interface: ppp0 Interface
address: 0.0.0.0 Destination address: 149.174.64.25 Netmask: <use default>
Is this correct? YES
Enter the IP address of the default gateway: 149.174.64.25 Enter the IP
addresses of the name servers: 149.174.64.41 <- Important! This question comes
again then. Give an emptystring. Give domain names (one at a time) to search:
compuserve.com This question comes again then. Give an emptystring. Do you want
Installer to make the required changes to your User-Startup?
I suggest You say yes. Do you want the Inetd to be started at the AmiTCP/IP
startup? YES
There are some other parts in the installation too which You should be able to
do. You don't need any SANAII drivers to install by this script (see below).
Unarchive PPP1_30.lha. There are two versions of ppp.device for different
CPU's. Copy one of them to devs:networks/ as ppp.device
Add the following line to amitcp:db/interfaces:
ppp0 DEV=DEVS:Networks/ppp.device UNIT=0 IPTYPE=33 NOARP P2P
Take this as Your amitcp:bin/startnet file
AmiTCP:bin/online ppp0
AmiTCP:AmiTCP
WaitForPort AMITCP
; Configure loop-back device
AmiTCP:bin/ifconfig lo0 localhost
; Configure ppp0
AmiTCP:bin/ifconfig ppp0 $ppp0IPLocal $ppp0IPRemote
; Add route to this host
AmiTCP:bin/route add $ppp0IPLocal localhost
; Add route to the default gateway
AmiTCP:bin/route add default $ppp0IPRemote
SetEnv HOSTNAME `AmiTCP:bin/hostname`
Assign >NIL: TCP: EXISTS
IF WARN
Mount TCP: FROM AmiTCP:devs/inet-mountlist
EndIF
; Start the internet `super server'
Run <NIL: >NIL: AmiTCP:bin/inetd
Next You make a directory sana2 in envarc: makedir envarc:sana2 In this
directory is the PPP configfile ppp0.config:
serial.device 0 19200 0.0.0.0 7WIRE LOG=40 REMOTEIP=149.174.64.25
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I tried BaudBandit.device but this didn't work ?!?! The
serialrate of 19200bps is enough since CIS supports speeds up to 14400 without
datacompression.
Add to the amitcp:bin/stopnet file the line
offline ppp0
Your system should be ready for TCP/IP now (at least I hope so 🙂
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AMosaic: Unfortunately You need MUI for it. I for myself have the Goldfish2 CD
with MUI installed. After starting the net (see below) I simply start the
AmiTCP-version by doubleclicking the Icon (I only copied the executable to HD,
MUI runs from CD)
Starting the NET:
I don't use a dialupscript because in 8bit mode the CIS hostname and User-ID
messages are garbled. Instead I cd to amitcp:bin Then I start a small terminal:
HFT, it opens a window on Workbench needs not much memory… I only have to set
baudrate to 19200 manually. Your modem must have AT&D0 set, so it stays off
hook after loosing DTR signal. Dial CIS:
CONNECT19200/V32.bis 14400/V42 <RETURN> (The following is garbled, so type
blind) Host Name: CIS <RETURN>
User ID: <Your ID>/GO:PPPCONNECT — forexample 73064,3302/GO:PPPCONNECT
password: <guess what>
You have left basic services…
At this point You leave the terminal (quit it). type at the shellprompt:
execute startnet (if you set the s-bit You need the execute not)
Thats it! If everything goes right PPP makes a connection. Then comes the
AmiTCP-Demo window with some licencetext which you can leave after 5 secs or
so. The last output comes from the addroute commands and a few seconds later
(maybe 15 or so) the shell prompt comes back!
Now You should be part of Internet.
At this point I have no problems with Telnet or Mosaic. Only FTP seems to make
trouble. NcFTP brings a message about HOSTNAME and that I should recompile it
with HOSTNAME definded??? Maybe some experienced Internet guy can help here??
Normal FTP from Aminet4-CD connects but mostly says then remote host quits
connection. The command was for 2.x, maybe it has trouble with AmiTCP 4.0 ??
But You wanted WWW, now You have it.
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If there are some mistakes in this text I would be happy if someone corrects
me. Any help about FTP is welcome too!!!
cya
Jochen Antesberger from Neuburg a.d. Donau – Bavaria/Germany
Titanic – Hindenburg – Challenger – Intel Pentium … what comes NeXT?
Jochan,
Thank you very, very much for the concise instructions!!! I will print this
file out and attempt this in the next day or so (waiting on the upload of PPP
v1.30 to become available). I already have MUI installed on my system, so that
is no problem The one thing I see from your post that I am unclear on is
exactly where and when do you start Amosaic? does it automagicly takeover
AmyTCP? Anyway will probably have a dozen questions once I get it all set up.
Are the gateway #s and server #s that you gave (149.174.64.25 & 149.174.64.41)
universal for anyone on CIS or are they just for your config?
Thanks again!
..Steve
Cruising on Autopilot
from beautiful Coastal South Carolina
Steve,
the IP addresses are universal for all CIS users. Also you can set a second
Nameserver: 149.174.64.42 in addition to 149.174.64.41.
bye,
Lothar Bartsch
eMail: lbartsch@anjou.hb.provi.de
After Starting the Net itselft the CLI-Prompt comes back and your amiga works
like before. It's like a Ethernetconnection. You only have to start Mosaic (The
Amitcp-version) and it knows what to do then. Usually it connects to the
AMosaic Homepage. In the Tooltypes You can specify another node. For example
HTTP://www.compuserve.com
The IP addresses are for every CIS-Node worldwide!
cya
Jochen Antesberger from Neuburg a.d. Donau – Bavaria/Germany
Titanic – Hindenburg – Challenger – Intel Pentium … what comes NeXT?
Jochan,
Thanx again! I beleive I have everything installed correctly, but am having
a few problems…using the startnet file you gave I got error messages, ie
$ppp0IPLocal bad value $ppp0IPRemote bad value
ect, (these were snapped from your post) upon return to the original startnet
file these went away, another is the CIS connection hangs up after I go
PPPConnect before the delay screen in AmiTCP goes away ?!?! It goes to the PPP
<node?>, I get garbage on the screen for a few seconds, I flip to the shell and
startnet but CIS hangs up before I can start Amitcp. I have tried Handson and
Jrcomm and get the same actions. I also get the message:
[err ]: ppp0: Device driver is offline (Unit is currently offline)
from the AmyTCP window (could that be related to the early log off?). I'm sure
it just a matter of tinkering.
…Steve
Cruising on Autopilot
from beautiful Coastal South Carolina
Hi Steve,
Using PPPv1.23 i had no luck at all.. As soon as I upgraded to PPP v1.30,
things worked like a dream, no problems at all.
The docs in v1.30 step you through the setup, all you'll need are the name
server IP addresses (GO PPP for more info).
I have just uploaded PPP1.30 today, so it should be available soon.
-Andre
Andre;
Thanks for the reply. I'm trying to find all the stuff I need. The March
issue of AW had an article about it all but I'm an Infobahn dummie and don't
know the difference between what he was talking about on Portal and whats
offered here on CIS <G>
Found the PPP ver 1.30 and AmiTCP ver 4.0 here in the Amigauser Libs.
Haven't been able to find AMosaic yet, any ideas?? Wheres the info on how to
use all this stuff. Or is that the challenge? <G>
Thanks again.
Best Regards
G.E. "OB" O'Brien Pensacola, Florida
Hi,
I think thats the trick to the Internet, trying to learn whats what.
Once you have AmiTCP & PPP setup (not TOO hard) you just run Amosaic on top of
that… All pretty simple.
You can always post a question here if you need to.
-Andre