CompuServe Thread

#WWW here on CIS ???

11 messages in this thread
#192135From: GE O'BrienApr 11, 1995 11:50 AM
I read in the paper this morning that compuserve is offering internet access through the WEB. Can someone tell me how I can do this with my Amiga?? Thanks in advance. Best Regards G.E. "OB" O'Brien Pensacola, Florida
#192264From: Andre LackmannApr 12, 1995 4:33 PM
Set up AmiTCP 4.0Demo (or preferably, buy the package).. Get PPP1.30 (I'm not sure if it is in the libs, if its not I'll upload it), AMosaic v1.2 plus any other nifty things you might like to use, FTP, telnet, gopher, IRC and off you go. A PPP connection such as the one CompuServe is now offering, will allow you to do virutally anything on the 'net. I have it set up and working at home. Works great! -Andre
#192315From: Steve SetzerApr 12, 1995 11:07 PM
Andre, I have AmiTCP4.0 demo,PPC v1.23, AMosaic v1.2, ect (all in the libs here). Can you give us a blow by blow on how to set up and use this stuff on compuserve? I have seen Mosaic & AmyTCP in action and it looks awesome! ..Steve Cruising on Autopilot from beautiful Coastal South Carolina
#192384From: Jochen Anteberger/Apr 13, 1995 2:47 PM
HI steve, it isn't that difficult to set AmiTCP up. I knew NOTHING about it but anyhow I got it working. Get AmiTCP 4.0, PPP 1.30 and AMosaic1.2. Start the Installer. It asks for the default user which I answered with Jochen. The script then sets this user up, asks for realname password… Then come the important things: It asks wether your connection is dynamic, answer with yes. Enter Your Domain name: compuserve.com Select the network interface type to be used: PPP Select the network interface to be used: PPP … a default IP address for the interface ppp0 … : 0.0.0.0 Give the destination address for the point-to-point interface ppp0: 149.174.64.25 Bypass the networkmask by giving an emptystring This is the information you gave for this interface: Interface: ppp0 Interface address: 0.0.0.0 Destination address: 149.174.64.25 Netmask: <use default> Is this correct? YES Enter the IP address of the default gateway: 149.174.64.25 Enter the IP addresses of the name servers: 149.174.64.41 <- Important! This question comes again then. Give an emptystring. Give domain names (one at a time) to search: compuserve.com This question comes again then. Give an emptystring. Do you want Installer to make the required changes to your User-Startup? I suggest You say yes. Do you want the Inetd to be started at the AmiTCP/IP startup? YES There are some other parts in the installation too which You should be able to do. You don't need any SANAII drivers to install by this script (see below). Unarchive PPP1_30.lha. There are two versions of ppp.device for different CPU's. Copy one of them to devs:networks/ as ppp.device Add the following line to amitcp:db/interfaces: ppp0 DEV=DEVS:Networks/ppp.device UNIT=0 IPTYPE=33 NOARP P2P Take this as Your amitcp:bin/startnet file AmiTCP:bin/online ppp0 AmiTCP:AmiTCP WaitForPort AMITCP ; Configure loop-back device AmiTCP:bin/ifconfig lo0 localhost ; Configure ppp0 AmiTCP:bin/ifconfig ppp0 $ppp0IPLocal $ppp0IPRemote ; Add route to this host AmiTCP:bin/route add $ppp0IPLocal localhost ; Add route to the default gateway AmiTCP:bin/route add default $ppp0IPRemote SetEnv HOSTNAME `AmiTCP:bin/hostname` Assign >NIL: TCP: EXISTS IF WARN Mount TCP: FROM AmiTCP:devs/inet-mountlist EndIF ; Start the internet `super server' Run <NIL: >NIL: AmiTCP:bin/inetd Next You make a directory sana2 in envarc: makedir envarc:sana2 In this directory is the PPP configfile ppp0.config: serial.device 0 19200 0.0.0.0 7WIRE LOG=40 REMOTEIP=149.174.64.25 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I tried BaudBandit.device but this didn't work ?!?! The serialrate of 19200bps is enough since CIS supports speeds up to 14400 without datacompression. Add to the amitcp:bin/stopnet file the line offline ppp0 Your system should be ready for TCP/IP now (at least I hope so 🙂 —- AMosaic: Unfortunately You need MUI for it. I for myself have the Goldfish2 CD with MUI installed. After starting the net (see below) I simply start the AmiTCP-version by doubleclicking the Icon (I only copied the executable to HD, MUI runs from CD) Starting the NET: I don't use a dialupscript because in 8bit mode the CIS hostname and User-ID messages are garbled. Instead I cd to amitcp:bin Then I start a small terminal: HFT, it opens a window on Workbench needs not much memory… I only have to set baudrate to 19200 manually. Your modem must have AT&D0 set, so it stays off hook after loosing DTR signal. Dial CIS: CONNECT19200/V32.bis 14400/V42 <RETURN> (The following is garbled, so type blind) Host Name: CIS <RETURN> User ID: <Your ID>/GO:PPPCONNECT — forexample 73064,3302/GO:PPPCONNECT password: <guess what> You have left basic services… At this point You leave the terminal (quit it). type at the shellprompt: execute startnet (if you set the s-bit You need the execute not) Thats it! If everything goes right PPP makes a connection. Then comes the AmiTCP-Demo window with some licencetext which you can leave after 5 secs or so. The last output comes from the addroute commands and a few seconds later (maybe 15 or so) the shell prompt comes back! Now You should be part of Internet. At this point I have no problems with Telnet or Mosaic. Only FTP seems to make trouble. NcFTP brings a message about HOSTNAME and that I should recompile it with HOSTNAME definded??? Maybe some experienced Internet guy can help here?? Normal FTP from Aminet4-CD connects but mostly says then remote host quits connection. The command was for 2.x, maybe it has trouble with AmiTCP 4.0 ?? But You wanted WWW, now You have it. —————————————- If there are some mistakes in this text I would be happy if someone corrects me. Any help about FTP is welcome too!!! cya Jochen Antesberger from Neuburg a.d. Donau – Bavaria/Germany Titanic – Hindenburg – Challenger – Intel Pentium … what comes NeXT?
#192429From: Steve SetzerApr 13, 1995 9:16 PM
Jochan, Thank you very, very much for the concise instructions!!! I will print this file out and attempt this in the next day or so (waiting on the upload of PPP v1.30 to become available). I already have MUI installed on my system, so that is no problem The one thing I see from your post that I am unclear on is exactly where and when do you start Amosaic? does it automagicly takeover AmyTCP? Anyway will probably have a dozen questions once I get it all set up. Are the gateway #s and server #s that you gave (149.174.64.25 & 149.174.64.41) universal for anyone on CIS or are they just for your config? Thanks again! ..Steve Cruising on Autopilot from beautiful Coastal South Carolina
#192500From: Lothar BartschApr 14, 1995 2:19 PM
Steve, the IP addresses are universal for all CIS users. Also you can set a second Nameserver: 149.174.64.42 in addition to 149.174.64.41. bye, Lothar Bartsch eMail: lbartsch@anjou.hb.provi.de
#192501From: Jochen Anteberger/Apr 14, 1995 2:21 PM
After Starting the Net itselft the CLI-Prompt comes back and your amiga works like before. It's like a Ethernetconnection. You only have to start Mosaic (The Amitcp-version) and it knows what to do then. Usually it connects to the AMosaic Homepage. In the Tooltypes You can specify another node. For example HTTP://www.compuserve.com The IP addresses are for every CIS-Node worldwide! cya Jochen Antesberger from Neuburg a.d. Donau – Bavaria/Germany Titanic – Hindenburg – Challenger – Intel Pentium … what comes NeXT?
#192525From: Steve SetzerApr 14, 1995 6:24 PM
Jochan, Thanx again! I beleive I have everything installed correctly, but am having a few problems…using the startnet file you gave I got error messages, ie $ppp0IPLocal bad value $ppp0IPRemote bad value ect, (these were snapped from your post) upon return to the original startnet file these went away, another is the CIS connection hangs up after I go PPPConnect before the delay screen in AmiTCP goes away ?!?! It goes to the PPP <node?>, I get garbage on the screen for a few seconds, I flip to the shell and startnet but CIS hangs up before I can start Amitcp. I have tried Handson and Jrcomm and get the same actions. I also get the message: [err ]: ppp0: Device driver is offline (Unit is currently offline) from the AmyTCP window (could that be related to the early log off?). I'm sure it just a matter of tinkering. …Steve Cruising on Autopilot from beautiful Coastal South Carolina
#192399From: Andre LackmannApr 13, 1995 6:19 PM
Hi Steve, Using PPPv1.23 i had no luck at all.. As soon as I upgraded to PPP v1.30, things worked like a dream, no problems at all. The docs in v1.30 step you through the setup, all you'll need are the name server IP addresses (GO PPP for more info). I have just uploaded PPP1.30 today, so it should be available soon. -Andre
#192355From: GE O'BrienApr 13, 1995 8:39 AM
Andre; Thanks for the reply. I'm trying to find all the stuff I need. The March issue of AW had an article about it all but I'm an Infobahn dummie and don't know the difference between what he was talking about on Portal and whats offered here on CIS <G> Found the PPP ver 1.30 and AmiTCP ver 4.0 here in the Amigauser Libs. Haven't been able to find AMosaic yet, any ideas?? Wheres the info on how to use all this stuff. Or is that the challenge? <G> Thanks again. Best Regards G.E. "OB" O'Brien Pensacola, Florida
#192400From: Andre LackmannApr 13, 1995 6:23 PM
Hi, I think thats the trick to the Internet, trying to learn whats what. Once you have AmiTCP & PPP setup (not TOO hard) you just run Amosaic on top of that… All pretty simple. You can always post a question here if you need to. -Andre