#AV Video drops the Amiga
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Yes, if anyone has read the latest issue[vol 17/no 3 MARCH 1995] of AV Video,
the Amiga niche section is gone and Brent Malnack gives everyone 2 pages of
reasons to jump ship and dump the Amiga.
Hey don't anyone say that the Amiga never get magazine coverage.
Hey, if this continues instead of going out to luch I might be able to buy all
the right for Commodore and the Amiga for $5
What I don't understand is that IBM doesn't buy the Amiga. I have been told
that they use it, they've got plenty of money even now and they *could* launch
it as if it were their own invention so why not?
I think that even after having created a misconception as the peecee that they
should have enough credibility and/or influence left to do it with a *good*
computer.
Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com
… On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
What, you think Il Chirurgo even knows *what* an Omega is?
Mr. Zombie
Huh?
Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com
… On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
Oh, well, the nickname of the new CEO of IBM is, or was, The Surgeon, or
something very similar, I don't remember for absolutely sure. Gerster the
Cutter, or something.
Mr. Zombie
>>Oh, well, the nickname of the new CEO of IBM is, or was, The Surgeon, or
something very similar, I don't remember for absolutely sure. Gerster the
Cutter, or something.<<
Thanks for the info. And BTW: ever seen a CEO *knowing* what he is selling?
Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com
… On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
>>ever seen a CEO *knowing* what he is selling?<<
Yah, sometimes, but not Gerstner. He used to sell cigarettes and cereal; now
he sells computers. What's the difference?–to him.
Mr. Zombie
>>Yah, sometimes, but not Gerstner. He used to sell cigarettes and cereal; now
he sells computers. What's the difference?–to him.<<
The numbers are bigger…
Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com
… On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
RJR Nabisco was a pretty big company though–that's where he was before IBM.
It's not the selling and big business parts he's unfamiliar with, it's the
computer industry, which is almost a seperate world.
Still, you have to give him some credit–IBM has picked up some since he took
the reigns. I did think it was funny when they had several different people
give suggestions to IBM as to what to sell, what to keep, and what to
concentrate on for the future–and Bill Gates was one of the people they hired,
and he said, Get rid of everything except the mainframe business, and
concentrate on that! I'm glad they didn't listen.
Mr. Zombie
>>Get rid of everything except the mainframe business, and concentrate on that!
I'm glad they didn't listen.<<
Why? Over here, IBM is more and more getting the image of a cheap clone maker
that isn't worth paying any attention to *except* in the mainframe and mini
business. Their OS/2 seems to be, but I don't have any *real* experience with
it, much better than Windows but then no one seems to care anyway and I have
the distinct impression people still blame them for fooling the world with
their peecee.
Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com
… On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
Well, while I wouldn't tell them to abandon mainframes by any measure, OS/2 is
pretty darn good. I only wish it was possible for it to offer more competition
to Windoze. And while they started the PC, many many other companies took
over–because people wanted them, foolishly or not. My impression is that
their clones are decent, and their portables are awesome. I wish they'd get in
the ring with some Pentium portables though, but I'm starting to wonder whether
that will happen, due to their liscensing deal with Intel.
But their biggest raison detre is, imho, the whole deal with Motorola and
Apple. I think they squandered their lead time squabbling, and it's too late,
but I still hold out hope.
Mr. Zombie
>What I don't understand is that IBM doesn't buy the Amiga. I have been told
>that they use it, they've got plenty of money even now and they *could*
>launch it as if it were their own invention so why not?
I am sure IBM could buy it without even blinking a eye but they don't need to
since it isn't a threat to them. Anyway these executives don't care about a
computer and it's followers, all they care about is PROFIT!
I don't know much about bankruptcy but I do know that CBM owes ALOT more than
it is worth so unless the bankruptcy filling has lifted thier responsibility to
thier creditors I don't see why anyone would buy them.
>>I am sure IBM could buy it without even blinking a eye but they don't need to
since it isn't a threat to them. Anyway these executives don't care about a
computer and it's followers, all they care about is PROFIT!<<
You're correct I guess <sigh>
>>I don't know much about bankruptcy but I do know that CBM owes ALOT more than
it is worth so unless the bankruptcy filling has lifted thier responsibility to
thier creditors I don't see why anyone would buy them.<<
Also correct I guess <sigh>
Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com
… On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
Brent doesn't give 2 pages of reasons to jump ship (he specifically gives
reasons you might go and buy and Amiga). He gives 2 pages of reasons to think
rationally and to make rational decisions. Anyone hanging onto hopes about C=
being resurected is probably failing to be rational. Someone who has accepted
the demise of C= and the death of future generations of Amiga technology but
who continues to use an Amiga anyway may be acting very rationally. It all
comes down to what you need to do and what your options are. The Amiga will be
a viable option to meet many needs for years to come, even if a new Amiga won't
ever be.
dale@iam.com http://www.iam.com
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Just as a footnote to this thread and in general, I think people should
consider something. I work on a Quantel Paintbox at my job. This is a
professional paint system that programs like Alpha Paint & Toaster Paint are
based upon. This technology is hardware dedicated, so the system that I'm
working on can't really be updated the way software is. Its remained unchanged
for years, yet it is a workhorse in the industry. Also, Amiga users have
become "spoiled" by the ease of upgradability both in processor & system
compoents. We've become accustomed to the everchanging growth that is seen so
often in computer software/hardware. Just because we can't buy an Amiga 5000
or see as much development in software as we have in the past, doesn't mean our
current set up has just become useless.
My point is that the fact that my paintbox hasn't changed in years hasn't
really hampered my work any more than one using the same fan brush on a
painting. In many applications this point may be mute. As far as in paint and
animation, I've become accustomed to a situation thats very similar to the
Amiga community.
I remember LW 3.0 came out, all you saw were lens flares all over the place.
Alot of people tend to play w/ the new buttons than explore their creativity
with the tools at hand. I think this situation will allow us to explore our
creative uses of this technology.
So get the NT workstations, or Pentium system. Use those systems to keep
yourself up to date in speed & software. But don't forget the functionality of
your old Amiga
CyberCruising at ya from Brooklyn, NY on Autopilot,
—Archie