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e! HD install response!

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#49367From: Leslie T. BartiromoMay 19, 1989 8:28 PM
A while ago I complained in this forum about the hard drive install program in "excellence!" and how MSS was not too receptive to constructive criticism based on a phone conversation I once had with the company. The other day I received an upgraded hard drive install program from MSS completely unsolicited. The program, though I haven't tested it, seems great. It is everything an HD install program should be and the docs are very complete. Personally, I fooled around with my startup-sequence and some drawers and got the program working on my HardFrame/Quantum 80 just fine. (More than I can say for some other programs I'm working on! I STILL can't get "KindWords" dictionary to add new words no matter how I alter the startup-sequence!) Even though this install program comes too late for me I'd like to thank the folks at MSS for listening to me and responding to my problem. Now, if the program can be speeded up and not crash when loading some HAM pictures…
#49517From: Ethan SolomitaMay 20, 1989 7:18 PM
Not crash when loading SOME ham pics, how about all. I thought it was ridiculous. Not only didn't they state this in the manual, you don't even get an error message. Its just "goodbye". Oh, E! has a lot of potential, but is too slow and buggy now… — Ethan
#49590From: Leslie T. BartiromoMay 21, 1989 12:38 PM
I did manage to load a HAM picture. It was black and white but in HAM format. The other thing that bugs me about "e!" is the spell checker. The recommendations are almost never of use. On the same token, KindWords dictionary has been able to correct my spelling errors except when I REALLY murder a word. I'd be nice if "e!" could imbed printer escape codes in the text like the 8-bit word processors (PaperClip, AtariWriter, etc.) No Amiga word processor that I am aware of can do that.
#49634From: Ethan SolomitaMay 21, 1989 5:16 PM
In programs like WP, you I believe can create a macro which inserts the printer codes. — Ethan
#49818From: Leslie T. BartiromoMay 22, 1989 9:42 PM
That is INTERESTING. That means I could use the printers built in double wide font. Thanks for the info. I'll have to check that out.
#49768From: May 22, 1989 5:21 PM
Leslie, WordPerfect allows embedded printer codes. // \X/ Lynn
#49885From: DesignTechMay 23, 1989 1:27 AM
DesignText (I know, yet to be seen and believed-But coming soon) can imbed up to 10 User defined printer sequences (Control 0-Control 9) into your document. They can be entered as ASCII, Hex, Decimal or Octal. Sincerely, Brian R. Niessen
#49972From: Leslie T. BartiromoMay 23, 1989 6:23 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll look for it.
#50290From: Andre FrechMay 25, 1989 11:10 AM
That'll be fixed, I hear. I talked with MSS last week at WOC and they promised to fix all bugs and even enter new features very soon. Like maybe a month or two. It'll be a 1M version, but it'll be faster and better. And if they don't do that they may lose a big sale, so I did do some extortion… 🙂 andre
#50328From: RON TROYMay 25, 1989 7:30 PM
Andre, the mail I got today says alot about MSS's priorities. There may or may not be a V2 of e!, but today I got an offer for me to spend about $50 on a new version of scribble! Now I know that MSS sends out upgrade notices 6 months to a year before something is ready, at least judging from past experience. Also, who in their right minds would use scribble today (except for extremely limited situations) enough to want to pay that much for a new version? Any other company would have done only bug fixes on scribble and would have had the new e! months ago. Ron
#50438From: Andre FrechMay 26, 1989 6:05 AM
Like always, the indians at MSS know what's going on, but the management hs other thoughts. The company is run by conservatives who believe that a product out there is usually ok, with or without bugs. I got him to believe otherwise; now let's see what happens. Other people at WOC also compained about scribble, and I told them myself that I never use it also. andre
#50445From: RON TROYMay 26, 1989 6:33 AM
Andre, when I first bought Scribble, I found it so hard to use that I simply never did, and went back to Textcraft. When E! came along, I retired Textcraft, but was always disappointed by the slow screen handling. At that time, though, MSS was much easier to talk to. Since then, I've twice met them at shows, and each time they're farther from reality then ever. I still will keep E! for certain work, but I think that other vendors (yes, I have one in mind) have much more usable products. Still, I have some hope for a usable E! 2 if you reached a certain person. Ron
#50539From: Ethan SolomitaMay 26, 1989 7:18 PM
Ron, is there a noticeable speedup when you limit bit-planes to one or two? — Ethan
#50564From: RON TROYMay 26, 1989 8:38 PM
There is some speedup. Ron
#50865From: Andre FrechMay 28, 1989 7:41 PM
When you may lose a sale of several thousand units and be able to get the mileage of using the publicity of "MSS being used by the Fortune 100 Company Cogswell Cogs" etc. That makes your priorities twitch a little. Let's hope things come through. So far they have been more than receptive. andre
#50931From: RON TROYMay 28, 1989 11:43 PM
I hope they respond better to you then to some of us. The last time I spoke to Esther, she was in orbit around Mars, for all the good it did. I like her but she makes me look like an incredibly easy to get along with type. BTW, is there any way I could get someone from CBM to show off the abilites of a nicely equipped 2500 (including someone's DECNET for Amiga and Xwindows) to my boss at the top ten bank I work for? He's looking to buy some VAX 3100 workstations, unless he finds something with the power off that's much more cost effective and easy to work with. It would be a hard sell but with potentially useful results. Note I'm in NYC. Ron
#50408From: Ethan SolomitaMay 26, 1989 12:25 AM
They'll lose a big sale? To whom? For what???? Also, they already put out a 1 meg version. In fact, that is the one I have. But it doesn't matter, I'll soon have pagestream. SoftLogic can thank their sale to the Amiga Sentry, which gave it a fabulous review. — Ethan
#50489From: Steve GoldmanMay 26, 1989 12:24 PM
Funny, the guy I talked to at the MSS booth at WOC said that there would be an upgrade to e! eventually but that there was no time frame for completing it. In fact, the impression I got was that it was at the bottom of their list. I did get the 1 Meg upgrade (v 1.14 I think), and it does seem to be a bit faster on text insertion. Still waiting to see Pen Pal which Steve Wagh said would be out mid- June. Steve
#50538From: Ethan SolomitaMay 26, 1989 7:18 PM
When I talked to the people at the MSS booth they said exactly the same thing, sometime eventually. They were even a little defensive about the whole thing! — Ethan
#50866From: Andre FrechMay 28, 1989 7:41 PM
Probably you misread their frustration as defensiveness. Privately many of them were mad at how slow the budget and time was getting allocated in making improvements in the product. I like it a lot for simple correspondence since the Glossary feature makes writing easy. I hate mailmerge because it seems so impersonal, and I let glossary do the gruntwork of the letter. But, to close the subject, I think; Actions speak louder than Words. We'll see. andre
#50978From: John DraperMay 29, 1989 2:54 AM
I don't think he did Andre. I have seen nothing but defensiveness from MSS. Early on, They whined and snivelled about Aterm being unfair competition for Online! Imagine… Aterm being too much competition. They never thought to look at their own product and see what it lacked, to looak at the bugs, to look at the total lack of imagination, features, and so on. The representative who used to come here was defensive, as well as rude, and now he doesn't come here any more, but still alienates those that call the company, and is still defensive. "Can I get a version where XModem works?" "No, you're only the second person that's asked for that feature." Sheesh! -larry
#51041From: RON TROYMay 29, 1989 2:35 PM
That captures their attitude perfectly (Youre only the second …)! Ron
#50901From: Steve GoldmanMay 28, 1989 10:02 PM
They didn't seem defensive to me. They seemed like they could care less. Steve