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#DF0: activity?

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#49911From: BILL LEACHMay 23, 1989 9:53 AM
Bob: I have an interesting occurance on my machine (A-2000)….. The DF0: drive light periodically flashes. Seems that it will do that with Whap!, WP, or PgS running. Haven't noticed it with anything else but will be trying to look a little closer. It is curious since, like you, I rarely use the floppies for much of anything and nothing is assigned to them. Any ideas as to what is going on? =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#49932From: steven a. wartofskyMay 23, 1989 1:31 PM
My primitive guess would be that the software's checking to see if a disk's logged in?? sw
#50250From: BILL LEACHMay 25, 1989 7:24 AM
Steve: Could be but I can't imagine why, there is no reason for any of those programs to have any interest in df0. I am real suspicious that there might be something goofy about my Amiga 2000, though it does not seem to be having problems…… less than most report when it come to something like PageStream. =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#50323From: steven a. wartofskyMay 25, 1989 6:38 PM
The safe but yucko thing to do might be to use VirusX3.2 or NoVirus (I actually prefer the latter first) on your system to see if anything ugly's hanging about. My long experience with a variety of systems has led me to the general conclusion that one should always suspect the hardware *last*, and only after doing a thorough investigation of all the other possibilities. The other thing I could think of right off might be some jumper block configured oddly somewhere? Stabs in the Dark Steve
#50460From: BILL LEACHMay 26, 1989 8:22 AM
Steve: I would agree except that often such strangeness is 'known' to be due to 8520 problems…. In fact, every hardware problem that I have had was due to something wrong with one of the 8520s (except possibly the clock problem that I had with this 2000 and I really don't know if that problem still exists or not — in fact I don't even know if I am using the vertical sync now for the line clock or not). Have not seen NoVirus and am not sure which VirusX I am using (just looked, guess I should update '1.21'). =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#50555From: steven a. wartofskyMay 26, 1989 7:53 PM
ye gods! 1.21?! It's up officially to 3.2; DO NOT go for any VirusX3.3 arc or other files you see around, they're bogus and are in fact viruses themselves. VirusX3.2's here in one of the libs somewhere. After hearing about the Falcon disk virus from Spectrum Holobyte, just went through 30 (!) floppies with 3.2 in about an hour (my drive is sweating), fortunately no ugly discoveries. sw
#50721From: BILL LEACHMay 27, 1989 9:13 PM
Steve: Thanks for the tip! I will look for 3.2 and load it up. Actually, I don't worry too much since very few 'foreign disks' make it to my system….. of course there are some and thats all it takes! =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#50743From: steven a. wartofskyMay 27, 1989 10:19 PM
I've been a die-hard CP/M user for many a year (may continue to be one for many more!), and never ran into viruses. I think I now have virtually every p.d. virus utility currently available, including safeboot, novirus, virusX, and others, since I also never ran into "custom boot blocks" on commercial CP/M software, and have become quite anxious over the comparative fragility of disks in the Amiga, Mac and PC arenas. steve
#50789From: BILL LEACHMay 28, 1989 7:43 AM
Steve: Since I don't run any copy protected software, the boot block type virus has not been anything that really scared me much. I did in fact get the original virus (the one that announced that something 'wonderful has happened' and 'that your amiga was alive.' The result was the feeling that I had been 'violated.' I was furious, even though I knew that there would actually be no harmful effects. Sorta like finding that your home has been burglerized! I find that I have to place virus writers on about the same plane as those that would put razer blades or poison in apples on All Hallows Eve! Really sick, and a menace to society. =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#50800From: steven a. wartofskyMay 28, 1989 10:24 AM
Bill, I'm in full agreement there; right next to 'em live the designers of copy protected boot blocks. Some day I'm going to have to figure out whether all those characters at the end of your messages are a CB call-sign or a sideways design…. can't hold my head sideways long enough to figure it out… =|8*> (abe lincoln w/sunglasses) steve
#50999From: BILL LEACHMay 29, 1989 10:43 AM
Steve: The '73' is a ham radio 'short hand' for best wishes. The }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{ is the ham radio packet address that is needed to get messages to me on packet radio….. My station call is KB7LX and the packet radio BBS station's call is WA4LPD. =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#50340From: John Sobernheim(TCR)May 25, 1989 8:54 PM
Bill, One kind of all the wall thing that you may not have checked is devs:mountlist. (All of them, if you reassign devs:). 'Handler = ???' entry for something df0: based. -John
#50461From: BILL LEACHMay 26, 1989 8:22 AM
John: Elaborate please. Not sure what you are driving at. Everything except, env: is assigned to DK0: and there is nothing that is on DF0: that does not also exist in the appropriate directory on DK0: =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#50574From: John Sobernheim(TCR)May 26, 1989 9:44 PM
Boy, looking at my message to you I can sure understand why it's hard to follow. I'll try and be a little more clear this time. From what I understand you're having problems with _something_ going to df0: even when you have everything assigned elsewhere. One possible (not probable now that I've thought about it a little more) problem is that in your devs:mountlist file where you specify devices like filesystems, you have to specify a, normally disk based, 'Handler'. The handlers are normally found in L: and so normally an entry in devs:mountlist would look like… handler = l:fastfilesystem However, it also may not look like the above. If you are specifying… handler = df0:l/fastfilesystem then when that device is mounted, the handler will be loaded from df0:. I realize now that this is probably not your problem as the disk access does not seem to be related with mounting devices, however, devs:mountlist is a hard place to remember to look at when weird things happen and I just thought you might like to check it out. -John
#50634From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMay 27, 1989 2:00 AM
John, One problem that will "lock" the system to df0: is not re-assigning T: to RAM: (or a HD) before you issue a second EXECUTE command or do anthing else that would cause a file to be written to T:. Don
#50664From: John Sobernheim(TCR)May 27, 1989 11:27 AM
Aha! Another 'tricky' one. -John
#50722From: BILL LEACHMay 27, 1989 9:13 PM
John: OK, thanks, I appreciate your trying to think of possible solutions. Most everything is mounted from DH2: except of course DH2: itself and the libraries that AmigaDOS has to have to just startup. =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#50692From: Vic WagnerMay 27, 1989 4:13 PM
Bill, You should also check your 'path' to make sure you don't inadvertently have something on DF0: in the list.
#50723From: BILL LEACHMay 27, 1989 9:13 PM
Hi Vic: Yes, that was one of the eariler things that I checked but of course the interesting thing is that this access takes place without any commands being issued to the OS….. that is I will see the DF0: activity LED flash while just typing a message in View! (for instance). =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#49948From: Steve AhlstromMay 23, 1989 3:26 PM
Bill, Do you use WShell? What do you have in your ENV:path file? -sja
#50206From: Mike MantinoMay 24, 1989 11:53 PM
I've had the exact same 'problem' that Bill Leach described for as long as I can remember. It doesnt seem to cause any real trouble with disk activity or system performance, but the drive light sort of flickers – sometimes quite brightly, mostly a dim flash or two. Strange, but bearable. – Mike
#50252From: BILL LEACHMay 25, 1989 7:24 AM
Steve: Yes, I am using WShell and lets see……. sys:c, sys:tools, sys:utilities, sys:system (all DK0:). =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{
#49955From: Bob RakoskyMay 23, 1989 5:12 PM
Bill, With PageStream running, _anything_ is possible. <grin> That sure does sound like a weird problem, though (since it's not just with Pgs running). I really don't have any ideas, other than the possibility of a minor glitch in one of the 8520's, since (I think) they are involved with the floppy disk driver. If I were adventurous, I might try swapping the two 8520's, and see what symptoms appeared or changed. More than likely, I'd never get around to it, though. <grin> …BobR
#50253From: BILL LEACHMay 25, 1989 7:25 AM
Bob: The thought occured to me but I am not feeling all that adventurous just now, 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' seems to be appropriate just now! =>73<=, bill }KB7LX @ WA4LPD{