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Buy and AMIGA?

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#50289From: Andre FrechMay 25, 1989 11:10 AM
Yes. Welcome to Mail Order Hell. We're now taking orders. Be a statistic. Again: In ordering mail order you take the risks. If things go wrong you should know the recourses and rights in your situation; know what you're doing. If things go right you win. People, be sure you know the risks. You're not immune. Commodore's official party line: Don't order from mail order. andre
#50407From: Ethan SolomitaMay 26, 1989 12:25 AM
Andre, do you know where Montgomery Grant gets their machines from? I could probably get you the serial number of a 2000 bought there. I know someone who got one there. — Ethan
#50437From: Andre FrechMay 26, 1989 6:04 AM
We don't have the money and resource tracking that IBM had during its Grey Market Attempted Shutdown. They couldn't do it either. Montgomery Grant stated somewhere that they were selling at rock bottom for as long as possible for primarily one reason: to revenge Commodore for cutting them off, and to destroy the dealer channel. I believe it. I hope they do neither. andre
#50483From: Gabe J. FederMay 26, 1989 10:43 AM
Monkey Grant is responsible for selling rebuilt and reconditioned 2000s as new. That is how they are making a buck. Can't blame them for taking the fastest route to satisfying their greed, but this gives Commodore a black eye. How about sending somebody to check them out!? –Gabe
#50862From: Andre FrechMay 28, 1989 7:40 PM
There is nothing you can do. So say the FTC: shutting them down are grounds for a suit on restriction of trade. They are, as far as I know, selling the machines for new. And then people say are computers are no good because there's no support from us. Sigh. Almost makes you want to give up sometimes; there's no justice. andre
#51213From: Gabe J. FederMay 30, 1989 12:41 PM
What about coming out as Amicus Curiae in a case of bad business practices from the Better Business Bureau, after a customer brings suit. We could find someone who has been burned and use them as a test case? Just a thought. –Gabe
#50537From: Ethan SolomitaMay 26, 1989 7:17 PM
Andre, the confusing thing is that all the machines they sell have a warranty card on them. No white-out on it or nothin. By the way, they represent, I'd bet, over 1/3 of the Amiga market in the NYC area, so if they are trying to get revenge, they're doing it. Maybe CBM could get the NY Attorney General in there, after I buy my machine from them, that is. — Ethan
#50610From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMay 27, 1989 12:48 AM
Andre, The big question of course is where are they getting product? I know the "normal" grey market routes…but isn't the "guy" selling to Montgomery Grant cutting their own throat at this point? Don
#50863From: Andre FrechMay 28, 1989 7:40 PM
The guy who is selling to MG has tons of inventory and bills to pay, so if they are dumping product, then no, they don't cut their own throat short term. It's the long term ones that hurt. andre
#50605From: KevinCMay 26, 1989 11:44 PM
Andre, Oh, I know and I agree (risks through the mail). This is really the only problem I've ever had through the mail and I've mail ordered A LOT (as has a friend of mine recently with no problems). As you pointed out, the important thing is to know your rights and also to be good at complaining/threatening in case something does go wrong. In this case though, I more than made up for the savings in aggravation. C'est la Vie. Kevin
#50864From: Andre FrechMay 28, 1989 7:40 PM
As a good friend of mine said, "It all comes out in the wash." But from the smell of him I don't think he's ever done laundry. 🙂 andre