CompuServe Thread

KS 1.3 in ROM

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#104170From: David McCabeMay 12, 1990 2:47 PM
Greg, I just read the article in the May Amazing/Amiga about putting KS 1.3 into ROM on an A1000. This sounds like a nice (and cheap :^) temporary solution to the disk KickStart until your board AND the 2.0 ROM's are available. I need to know, tho, if the mod's involved in the article would mess up your installation needs? i.e. do you need all the gold posts supporting the daughter board? Because they all come out for this mod. Thanx, David McCabe
#104216From: Dean BrownMay 12, 1990 8:40 PM
David, If you read the article in AC about adding a CBM ROM to your A1000, do yourself a favor and BURN the magazine!!!! That has got to be one of the worst hacks I've ever seen in an article. We manufacture and sell the KwikStart board for the A1000 that effectively does the same thing, EXCEPT it only requires you to remove one 20 pin chip. (unsoldering) I estimate approximatly 5% of the people trying this mess it up. That article has you unsoldering 120+ pins, and then replacing virtually all of them with chips. I would guess that 50% or more of the machines modified by this upgrade are going to be scrap before its complete. I AM NOT an uninterested bystander. I do sell a competing product that retails for more money than what the articles mod would cost. I do believe, however, that the KwikStart upgrade will cost you less in the long run. Dean DKB Software PS. Gregs board does require the gold posts, since that is where the Rejunivator mounts.
#104232From: David McCabeMay 12, 1990 10:09 PM
Thanx, Dean for the quick reply!! I won't do this mod if the Rejuvenator needs the posts, because I plan to purchase this board. I am not afraid to do any hacking sinc I have been HardWare and SoftWare hacking since the early 70's when I learned all about the BASIC language and computers at Dartmouth College, and I have hacked quite a few machines and programs for my own custom use. I do see your point hwever and agree that there probably will be a lot of destruction because of this article. BTW, if you are stoll selling the KwickStart, can you EMail me pricing and ordering info. Will it support the new 512K ROM's? Thanx, David McCabe
#104414From: Dean BrownMay 13, 1990 8:16 PM
David, The current SRP for the KwikStart is $119.99 without the ROMs. It currently works with 1.3 version kickstart, and _should_ work with the 2.0 version with a PAL change. I can't say for sure without having a ROM to try, and none exist at this point. Dean DKB Software
#104680From: Phil SaundersMay 14, 1990 9:49 PM
David, it looks to me like it should be possible to do the AC mod WITHOUT desoldering all those posts. Inside you can solder 2 sockets together, back to back (solder their pins together so there is a socket facing each way). The two sockets can then be placed on the gold pins and the chips placed in the other socket. so you would have the pins from the motherboard, an upside down socket connected to the pins, a right side up socket soldered to the upside down socket, and then the chip inserted in the right side up socket. Use headers to plug the new PCB into the two ROM sockets. This method will require no desoldering and should be removable (aside from the trace cuts and jumpers required for the motherboard). I should get my parts this week, and I'll post the results here. This should be an easier to reverse (though less solidly attached) version of the project. The soldered together sockets aren't hard to make.
#104711From: David McCabeMay 14, 1990 11:59 PM
Thanx Phil, I am looking forward to seeing your results posted. I am planning on getting a 3000 around Christmas, but I would like to keep my 1000 as up to date as possible. Thanx God for people like Greg Tibbs and their ideas!! Thanx David McCabe
#104251From: Gregory B. TibbsMay 12, 1990 11:09 PM
If you remove the gold posts then you cannot add the Rejuvenator unless you put them back; a process that has a low probability of success without damaging traces on the motherboard. -Greg