#Neural Network!
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MegageM is pleased to announce NeuroPro 2.0 for the Amiga. NeuroPro 2.0
is an advanced Neural Network Artificial Intelligence system with
state-ofthe-art features. NP2.0 supports up to 768 neurons (256 per layer,
3 layers) with over 130,000 connections for sophisticated applications.
NP2.0 graphically displays the operation of the entire neural network in
real time. NP2.0 incorporates 3 complete user interfaces: a 'pushbutton,
AmigaDos 2.0-look' graphic user interface, a menu interface with keyboard
shortcuts, and ARexx. Most functions can be accomplished via any of the
three interfaces.
NP2.0 supports three types of data: bit arrays, text, and graphic images.
With NeuroPro 2.0 you can design and train networks to translate any data
type on the input to any other on the output, e.g. text to text
translation, bit arrays to text, text to images. Images are supported for
input & output layers of 64 (8×8 pixel image) or 256 (16×16 pixel image)
neurons.
Data for inputs and outputs can be loaded from IFF files which are easily
editable in Deluxe Paint. Text files for input and output training data
are supported for any layer. Up to 32 characters of text may be applied as
input data (256 neurons) or training set data.
Input and output data sets can be saved as bit arrays, text, or graphic
images (IFF files). Trained networks can also be saved for later recall
and applications with different data sets.
You can use NP2.0 to develop systems for language translation, text to
phonetic/speech translation, image recognition, game theory, financial
analysis, and other artificial intelligence applications. With its
strength in its varietyof data types, NP2.0 breaks the barriers to
practical applications of smart pattern recognition systems for the Amiga.
NP2.0 is written completely in fast, efficient 68xxx assembly language.
NP2.0 uses the widely successful 3-layer back-propagation algorithm. A
version for 68881/882/68040 is included which can train up to 250,000
connections per sec on 040. Performance like expensive dedicated hardware.
SLP $199.95 Contact MegageM 1903 Adria Santa Maria, CA 93454 805-349-1104
Daniel,
NeuroPro 2.0 sounds very interesting to me. Can you tell me about the
documentation that you provide with the program?
David
a full printed manual accompanies the program, but (be reasonable) it isn't
a complete text explaining everything about neural networks. it does give
numerous references to textbooks and articles which are relevant (but which
I have no permission to reprint). The manual will include tutorials on
several applications which exploit a wide range of the program's features.
Dan,
A full printed manual with eferences to textbooks and articles about neural
networks sounds good. Since I'm not familiar with neural networks, I was
wondering what to expect in terms of documentation. Nowadays,
documentation seems to run the whole gamut from a 512 byte ReadMe file
saying to click the icon to run the program to a multi-volume set of
manuals.
As far as being reasonable, though, it's not totally unheard of for a
highly technical or specialized program to be sold including a book on the
subject. Since neural networks are relatively new and not generally
understood by people, you might want to consider including a recommended
textbook. (Just a marketing suggestion, though, not meant to be a
criticism. 8)
Do you have any literature that you could send out on the product, or
possibly a crippled demo version that you could upload?
David
David, thanks for the input. I just might try to find a modestly priced
book on NN's and include it with the product. Great suggestion! There was
a great series of articles on NN's in AI Expert Magazine which they
compiled into a special issue – maybe that would be the ticket. Great
idea. I can't even think of what it would take to write it myself and make
it better than what's already out there. I want to avoid the
super-technical explanations as appear in some texts. My manual for
FractalPro is about 40 pages. I expect NeuroPro 2.0's manual to be similar
in size – I got away from docs on disk a long time ago and a 512-byte
readme file just wouldn't come close to usefulness with a program like
NeuroPro 2.0. Neural Networks are about 6 years old now and very well
understood in the AI community and computer science schools. I not only
will send you literature (please provide an address) but I will also upload
a crippled demo within a couple of weeks. I am near a final BETA (can't
find any more bugs, just polishing user-friendliness) and testing on
various Amiga configurations to assure compatibility, etc. The program
starts with a built-in text translation problem it can solve so I can
surely supply a demo (which won't be able to load or save anything and will
have many features disabled like ARexx, training options, etc.). I did a
timing test and got 21000 connections per second training speed on a 16mhz
68020/881/32-bit ram A1000 system. 275000 connections per second on my
25mhz 68040 A2000. I looked over a PD neural network program (on Fish disk
581 I think) and it is interesting but nowhere near the sophistication and
flexibility of NeuroPro 2.0 (which displays the ongoing operation of the
network, has 2.0-look button gadget + menu +ARexx interfaces and can handle
a truly wide variety of data types). I hope people out there like it. This
is a labor of love with the small sales potential on the Amiga platform and
I've really tried to make it NICE.
This sounds like it might have applications in xlating from our current
typesetting format to one we're thinking of switching to. I'd appreciate
literature as well. If you can fax it, 512/447-1144, attn: Loyd. If not,
please snailmail it to Loyd Blankenship, c/o Steve Jackson Games, PO Box
18957, Austin, TX, 78760.
Thanks! Loyd
check out the demo version now on AmigaTech forum, Library 6 (ASM)
title: NeuroProDemo.lha I sure hope this does what you want but I am
not quite sure what youre problem really amounts to???
Sounds like a neat project, but what does it do (so quickly 🙂 )
–Paul
Whappin' from the Wine Country
see demo version now available as NeuroProDemo.lha on AmigaTech forum
Library 6 (ASM Programming). It does pattern recognition – text to
image, text to text, etc. e.g. language translation, radar signature
recognition, speech translation, etc. etc. It is a general purpose
system for creating intelligent pattern recognition systems.
I never heard of this before. Sounds like some pretty cool stuff. I
gotta go fiddle with it some more, and go to the bookStore.
Thanks for the scoop,
please report on your experience with the downloaded demo program I put in
AmigaTech Library 6. I'm trying to find a decent introductory book that
isn't cost prohibitive to include with the commercial program at no
additional charge. Neural networks are indeed very cool stuff.
Daniel,
I have installed the software, but I'm not quite sure what I'm seeing
yet. Is there a real simple learn-convert thingie I can try, or see. I
think the two samples are too complex for me to appreciate what the
capabilities are.
I gotta find a book or something!
–Paul
Whappin' from the Wine Country
i presume you downloaded NproDemo? The built-in demo is of learning to
translate English text to Spanish text. Try to find AI Expert magazine's
special issue on neural networks which came out a few months back – it was
available in many computer and book stores, just a few bucks. I'm trying
to find some to include with the software (commercial version). There
probably will be either that or some book in addition to the manual. The
software does already have some fairly nifty tutorials. There's one which
learns to phonetically spell the spanish numbers 0 to 32, then the network
can output them as a text file and Amiga can read aloud. Via ARexx or
another text file loaded as inputs you can feed data to the network and
have NeuroPro save the corresponding outputs from the network into a text
file in ram, one pattern at a time. It is quite interesting to observe the
network generate 'correct' output even when presented with data which have
been somewhat modified (input data, that is) from what the network was
'trained' on. Neuropro can be operated one command at a time from a
CLI/Shell. Hearing the Amiga read aloud in Spanish is amusing at least and
suggestive of more sophisticated capabilities…
I've E-mailed you my address and am looking forward to getting the
information and seeing the demo. I've been interested in learning
more about neural networks for a while now. Your program sounds like
it might just be the ticket.
David, it is on AmigaTech Library 6 (ASM) as NeuroProDemo.lha. Have
fun. Hope to hear back from you. Remember this is a mostly disabled
demo version only. The real thing is fully functional and MUCH MUCH
faster at training. The demo does show what goes on and the full
potential of the commercial program.
Is MegageM set up for credit card users yet? In the past it was a check
(or maybe COD) only business. That NP2.0 sounds very impressive indeed!
funny you should ask. i have been hounding my bank manager for a year, and
they recently got taken over by Bank of AMerica so things have changed and
they are reprocessing my application to take credit card payments. It has
been a real pain not to be able to like everyone else, but I can't find a
bank that doesn't think my customers will try to steal millions$. Those
guys are paranoid. I've never even had a customer bounce a check and
somehow the bank thinks suddenly they'll lose a million if I let customers
pay by Visa or Mastercard. I have no ideahow much business I've lost but I
don't own the bank and I can't force 'em to help me make money (which helps
them make money). Go figure. I'm meeting with the manager today with a
recent Dunn and Bradstreet report, all my product reviews, tax returns,
sales reports from 1991, a copy of my book, a copy of my patent, and
possibly a dog an pony show to try and convince these guys that I'm not a
thief (and neither are my customers!). Wish me luck (gee, from that
diatribe you might think I'd gotten frustrated trying to get permission to
take credit card payments….). Thanks for the kind words on NPro2.0. I'm
trying to make this one REAL nice – a real piece of jazz software.