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#A4000 & 1960 Monitor

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#98486From: Tom DrobnakMay 5, 1993 10:09 PM
I have a friend who has just purchased a A4000 along with a 1960 monitor. He is having trouble displaying a centered screen in Double Scan Mode (640 x 400). The screen is closer to the left edge of the display than the right edge of the display. We have tried using the preferences editor OVERSCAN to move the display, but it does not allow this. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Does anyone have a solution to this? Any help would be appreciated. Tom Drobnak [72155,1022]
#98516From: Robert HayesMay 6, 1993 1:31 AM
Use the picture adjust knob on the side of the monitor.
#98727From: Tom DrobnakMay 7, 1993 9:35 PM
He says he has adjusted the controls on his monitor and the best he can do is get the image about 1/4" away from the left edge leaving about 1.5" on the right edge.
#98851From: Mr. ChalleronMay 8, 1993 2:03 PM
It seems to be a peculiarity of the 4000/1960 combination; my Double- NTSC-No-Flicker mode (which is what I think you're talking about) sets up at the extreme right-hand-side, to the point where I actually get a bright line on the right because the gun-trace just can't go no farther…. Don't expect help from Commodore on this; your friend DOES have a fully-useable (if off-center) image, and the 1960, for all its quirks, is the cheapest "multisync" monitor you can buy that handles all computer- specific scanrates AND all TELEVISION-specific scanrates: I saw a gorgeous multisync at my dealer's store, and it had tight-enough oscillator-control that the image barely moved as the computer switched from one driver to another — but that puppy cost eighteen hundred bucks, too. (YGWYPF.)
#98894From: Greg MalcangiMay 8, 1993 7:21 PM
There is a new Commodore monitor due on the market in the UK by the end of this month that is supposed to correct all these display problems with the AGA modes and will retail for nearly half the price of the 1960. Greg
#99385From: Mr. ChalleronMay 12, 1993 1:30 AM
I hope so, if for no other reason than that the Amiga is already known widely enough as a "quirky" computer (or maybe that was us Amigafans who got that name): One almost gets the feeling that the 1960 monitor was a "rush job", like the Irish-built A1200s whose first entire production run went into the crapper, literally, because not even Wang could make them work (I read of something like 80% returns); of course the whole AGA project ended up as a rush job because all the PC-thieves were blowing smoke up one another's asses about "real-time video" and "16 million colors" (which, interestingly, was usually only in normal-VGA mode; in SVGA the palettes drop to maybe 32,000 colors, so what's the point?), and CBM apparently feared losing what little market share they had….
#99431From: Steve AhlstromMay 12, 1993 1:46 PM
AGA was not a "rush job". It was first shown to developers in Sept. 1991. -sja
#99541From: Jonathan BlackwellMay 13, 1993 12:37 AM
'fraid not. AGA was demonstrated to devs about 1.5 years ago. -Jonathan
#99897From: Mr. ChalleronMay 15, 1993 4:29 PM
Yeah, and Windows was "shown" to developers in 1986, too…
#99528From: Tom DrobnakMay 12, 1993 11:26 PM
Thanks for the response. He has tried talking with Commodore, and you are right, they said that there was nothing you could do about it now, but that they are working on new monitor drivers which might solve the problem.
#99324From: Robert WilcoxMay 11, 1993 6:58 PM
VSIZE on the 1960 should be set to auto and WIDTH to add. He also may want to try reducing the number of loaded monitors to double NTSC and NTSC. Use ScreenModes and Overscan to set and save the maximum screen size. Worth a try.
#99530From: Tom DrobnakMay 12, 1993 11:28 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll let him give it a try.