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#Denise Upgrade

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#100012From: Paul IdolMay 16, 1993 10:50 AM
What exactly do I have to do to upgrade an original chipset A500 to be able to put out flicker-free (i.e. ECS) displays? Just a new Denise? Is the newer Denise pin compatable with the old one? Paul
#100079From: Robert ComerMay 16, 1993 10:43 PM
You'll need an ECS Denise, an ECS Agnus, and a Multisynch monitor, (or 2 monitors, 1 VGA, and one RGB). Yes, the ECS Denise is pin compatible with the old Denise. A word of warning though, you wont believe how slow your 500 will run in productivity mode, not to mention, only 4 colors… (I tried it, and couldn't live with it, now I own an A1200 to go with my A500.) Bob Comer — Cruising the nets on AutoPilot from Cheyenne, Wyoming
#100170From: Paul IdolMay 17, 1993 3:12 PM
My mother wants to use it for word-processing – would it be too slow for that to be practical or bearable? A flicker fixer is about $200 or something, so I'm not sure what to do – she doesn't want to spend much money. Paul
#100266From: Robert ComerMay 18, 1993 12:45 AM
I don't know, it all depends on her tolerance (and what word processor she's going to use.) Have you thought about those C= Hires monitor's that you see advertised in AmigaWorld (they're going for about $200, but I think that's all you have to buy…) Bob Comer — Cruising the nets on AutoPilot from Cheyenne, Wyoming
#100340From: Paul IdolMay 18, 1993 8:03 PM
That's a thought – I'd been trying to get info on them myself before I went and got my 1200. But my biggest worry is memory – it has only 1meg. Trans(write/script)? is probably her best bet, I guess, though if you have any suggestions PLEASE offer them. Thanks Paul
#100366From: Robert ComerMay 18, 1993 11:45 PM
I haven't tried Transwrite myself, but I've heard good things about it. (I prefer excellence! and Final Copy, but there's no way that she'll be happy with those on a 1 meg machine using productivity mode…) What version of the OS do you have on the 500? If it's 1.3, I'd suggest Scribble! It's a decent, and fast, text based wp. I don't know if it was updated for OS2.04 though… Bob Comer — Cruising the nets on AutoPilot from Cheyenne, Wyoming
#100433From: Paul IdolMay 19, 1993 6:18 PM
2.0 – I'm trying to investigate the 2024 monitor, but no one seems to know anything. Paul
#100833From: Tom JonesMay 22, 1993 2:25 PM
Hi Paul I really think there is no way to *inexpensively* make a 500 do what you want. The cheapest route might be to install the ECS chipset, Agnes _and_ Denise, and the 2.1 rom upgrade, then run productivity mode and pick up a Commodore hi-res black and white monior. But I wouldn't do it. A better answer is to spring for the ICD flickerfreevideo. Even better is to put all that money towards a 1200. Really. Tom, Redneck from Oklahoma
#100176From: Steve SetzerMay 17, 1993 4:37 PM
Paul, You can not just upgrade the chips in the 500 to get flicker free displays, to the best of my knowledge the only way to do that is to purchase Flicker Free Video II by ICD and a vga/multisync monitor. :-/ …Steve ====>>> Motorola 68030 Inside <<<====
#100511From: donnellanMay 20, 1993 12:06 PM
Steve, I thought that there are more than one flicker fixer for the a500??? Sean
#100533From: Steve SetzerMay 20, 1993 3:51 PM
Sean, There may be more than one flicker fixer for the 500, but I only know of one, Flicker Free Video. There are a variety for the 2000 though. …Steve ====>>> Motorola 68030 Inside <<<====
#100546From: James RoathMay 20, 1993 5:43 PM
There is another one called flicker blaster made by (I think) micro R&D, I have seen the ads in Amigaworld, it also includes some kind of sound amplifier…
#100574From: Joe KuzmaMay 20, 1993 9:43 PM
Steve, There are a number of ways to get flicker-free video out of an Amiga 500. One way to is purchase a VGA-type monitor, and the 2.04 ROMS, and the Enhanced Chip Set (ECS) Denise, and Agnus. This will let you connect the 31.5khz VGA-type monitor to the Amiga and display in "productivity" mode which will be a flicker-free mode.
#100985From: Paul IdolMay 23, 1993 4:51 PM
Does the A2024 monitor work with a regular 1200? What exactly does the monitor do? Paul
#101153From: Ron LegroMay 24, 1993 2:48 PM
The A2024 will work with any Amiga, but only in its own "extended" mode (a rock-steady 1008×800) or standard (pre-ECS) resolutions reduced to the A2024's four-shade greyscale. Some software actually lets you configure to an A2024 extended screen; other software of course can be made to run on an extended Workbench screen. The monitor comes with a special Workbench 1.3-based boot disk that will automate the installation of the "extended" modes, which should work with Workbench 2.x and 3.x, but you may not need it. Look in the Screenmode menu and you'll see A2024 as an option. Click on it and (if you have the monitor hooked up) away you'll go. The main drawback of the A2024 is that, such as it is, animations, games and graphics aren't going to fare well on it. You can view IFFs in greyscale but they won't look like much. If you're doing a lot of writing or desktop publishing it is a terrific monitor. You can always have it hooked up in addition to a color monitor and choose which to use for various software.
#101180From: Paul IdolMay 24, 1993 5:46 PM
Ah! Thank you – that was what I suspected, but no one could tell me for sure before. I'm trying to get my mom set up w/ my old 500 as cheaply as possible, and she only wants to write, so it sounds _ideal_! Paul