CompuServe Thread

#How Dead Is it?

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#34831From: Jay TruesdaleMay 18, 1993 8:20 PM
The reviews I read of CBM UNIX in the UNIX magazines complained that it was too SLOOOW on the '030 3000. The same review had '040 machines in it that were acceptable from a speed standpoint. I saw a demo of Amiga UNIX and thought it was too sluggish to even consider. If they made it run on a 4000 and priced the bundle correctly, I bet they'd sell a lot of machines. -J
#34835From: Jay G PedersenMay 19, 1993 12:43 AM
I think the answer to why they didn't make it run on the '040 was that the "base" software from AT&T has mucho assembly code which uses addressing modes not supported by the '040. That was the word I got from a Commodore rep at WOA 2 years ago. They probably didn't want to invest in the development effort to make it work. -Jay Pedersen
#34903From: John Toebes/SYSOPMay 22, 1993 7:17 PM
Now that's an interesting statement. "Addressing modes not supported by the '040". If anything, this was probably an interpretation of MMU granularity/instructions or things having to do with the cache.
#34915From: Jay G PedersenMay 23, 1993 10:49 AM
About the addressing modes. The story I was told by the Commodore rep at WOA (in 1991) was exactly that. He said that the 040 does not support the same addressing modes as the 030. And some of the addressing modes in the assembly code in Unix used addressing modes no longer supported by the 040. I do not program assembly on either the 030 or the 040 so I can't verify the veracity of his statement. -Jay Pedersen
#34919From: John Toebes/SYSOPMay 23, 1993 5:16 PM
… Pulling out my 040 book … Seems like the only things that the 040 did was to eliminate some of the math functions of the 881 and change the MMU capabilities. All of the addressing modes appear to be there (and you would expect that). Seems like the person who was spouting the line didn't know the difference between addressing modes and instructions. (Of couse, I COULD be misreading this 040 book :-).
#34852From: BILL LEACHMay 19, 1993 6:00 PM
Jay; The X server does run pretty slow on the A3000UX. Otherwise though, from what I have seen the machine is plenty fast. -bill
#34856From: Rob SalmonMay 19, 1993 9:31 PM
C='s UNIX too slow? You know, *Sun's* XWindow isn't all that fast either. The window setup time and refreshes were almost painful on a SPARC 1+ or ELC. Going from the Sunview GUI to XWindow was hard to call an advance.
#34900From: David HammMay 22, 1993 5:42 PM
Rob, But then again, you've gotta remember that SUN's Openview or XWindow will give ya much better resolution than the Amiga. Also, I've seen a 64 bit bus on the SUN. – Dave
#34904From: Rob SalmonMay 23, 1993 12:08 AM
The fastest XWin I've ever seen was Dale Luck's A500 running X Client off a Sun3. Yes, it was mono, but it was FAST!
#34999From: David HammMay 29, 1993 8:29 PM
Rob, An A500 running off a Sun3??? Jeesh, THAT musta been a long time ago… <grin> – Dave