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#CLtd Woes

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#101252From: Deryk RobossonMay 25, 1993 2:28 AM
Can anyone give me information on a Miniscribe 8425 20 meg HD? I need all of the information like: number of cylenders number of heads (surfaces) any and all information pertaining to this drive. I am connecting this drive up to a C Ltd. SCSI Controller and would like a mountlist (and the CLTD.device too!) for this particular drive. Any and all help is appre- ciated!! Thanks. Deryk
#101258From: Pat AugustineMay 25, 1993 3:54 AM
Deryk, According to Winn Rosch's Hardware Bible the specs are: Cylinders: 615 Heads: 4 Sectors: 17 Write Precomp: 128 Landing Zone: 663 Capacity: 21MB This is not a SCSI drive (or you wouldn't need this data, IT would tell you), but, I believe, an MFM drive. If the card you mention will accept MFM/RLL drives, then the first line of info I posted should be all you need. If it needs a SCSI drive, you are going to need some sort of adapter to convert (and it probably won't be worth the effort).
#101750From: Deryk RobossonMay 28, 1993 12:00 AM
Pat, Hmmm…Thats interesting, because this drive was came out of a Mac. Hasn't Mac always been SCSI? Correct me if I am wrong with this. The information that you provided should help out (I hope 🙂 ) Thanks, Deryk
#101815From: BILL LEACHMay 28, 1993 10:43 AM
Deryk; Mac has always "been scsi," but they "took some liberties" with the scsi specification (like just about ignored it completely). Add to that, drive manufactures that "tuned" their drives to work with the Mac system, and you have real trouble for a system that complies with the scsi spec. -bill
#102063From: Deryk RobossonMay 30, 1993 2:57 AM
Bill, Thanks for the information….being as I havn't yet gotten this drive to format, and I only paid $20 for it ($1/Meg), I think that it's going to get sold. Thanks again, Quantum, here I come! -Deryk
#101283From: BILL LEACHMay 25, 1993 8:48 AM
Deryk; What C-Ltd controller are you using? It has been a few years since I used any of the C-Ltd stuff so I don't know if I can be of much help. Does the controller have the adaptec MFM/SCSI board? -bill
#101751From: Deryk RobossonMay 28, 1993 12:01 AM
Bill, This may sound a little silly, but how would I tell? I know hardware and all, but I don't think that I can tell on this one <VBG>. Deryk
#101816From: BILL LEACHMay 28, 1993 10:43 AM
Deryk; The scsi controllers with have a dual inline 50 header on the board (Berg connector). They will usually have a DB-25 on the board mounting plate. The Kronos controller will have the word Kronos on the card I believe (I can't tell you for sure as I loaned my Kronos card to someone). The Kronos is also a "half-length" card (though it may or may not have a full length frame). The C-Ltd controller that predates the Kronos is a full length card (that is the circuit board itself is full length) but it very short (in height) and sparsely populated. I don't know what C-Ltd did with the Adaptec controller. I suspect that it was mounted on the drive itself (the only ones that I ever saw were exactly the size of a 5.25 inch drive). The Adaptec will have a 50 pin Berg connector and then a set of connectors for the ST-506 interface type drives (same arrangment that you will see on an old PC type disk controller). -bill
#102064From: Deryk RobossonMay 30, 1993 3:03 AM
Bill, I am pretty sure that I have the SCSI controller now that you've given me the info. It has the DB25 and the 50 pin connectors on the board and I don't see the name 'Kronos' anywhere on the board. I'm going to assume also, that this board will not autoboot. Am I correct in this assumption? ard will not autoboot. Am I correct in this assumption? oot. Am I correct in this assumption? Deryk ect in this assumption?Deryk
#102094From: BILL LEACHMay 30, 1993 11:58 AM
Deryk; Yes, you are correct. The original C-Ltd board will not autoboot. -bill