CompuServe Thread

#Buster Replacement

8 messages in this thread
#143825From: Shawn RandolphMay 6, 1994 9:29 PM
I have a socketed Buster rev -09. If I replace this Buster with a rev -11 will all my problems be gone or are their other problems with the motherboard?? Any comments appreciated. Thanks Shawn
#143903From: Dale LarsonMay 7, 1994 5:32 AM
There are problems with the CPU daughter cards. I believe version 3.1 is what you should have, but even then you won't have the latest PAL fixes (which were made only since Janurary or Febuary). The PAL fixes aren't critical, but they are nice. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#144400From: Jim SakladMay 8, 1994 10:39 PM
Dale – > I believe version 3.1 is what you should have, but even then you won't > have the latest PAL fixes (which were made only since Janurary or > Febuary). The PAL fixes aren't critical, but they are nice. What non-critical things do the PAL's fix? . . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#144466From: Dale LarsonMay 9, 1994 8:00 AM
It's not that they fix non-critical things, it's that you can live without the fix 🙂 The answer is very technical. If you're a technical type, Haynie could explain it to you better than I. If your not, this baby-talk explanation should do. The 040 daughter card basically has to convert 040-talk to 030-talk, since the A4k motherboard talks 030-talk. The PALs are a big part of this. With the first production release, there were several little timing glitches and potential extra delays, to the point that the 4091 didn't really work. The 3.1 board fixed most of them. An additional bug was found that, when fixed, can give the CPU a little more time, enough that there is measurably more CPU available during disk access and that serial interupts are less of a problem (those with Fastlanes or 4091s downloading 14.4 to a SCSI drive have probably noticed increased file transfer errors). — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#143985From: John GagerMay 7, 1994 2:06 PM
"I have a socketed Buster rev -09. If I replace this Buster with a rev -11 will all my problems be gone or are their other problems with the motherboard??" Well it depends on what you are going to do with your revision -11 Buster. If you intend on getting a 4091 SCSI-II controller, you must also have a rev 3.1 processor board. This is the 68040 daughterboard that plugs into the motherboard. Timing problems with the older 3.0 processor board caused major problems with the 4091 controller. // John (Speeding on the Information Superhighway) \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
#144304From: Edgar FaulknerMay 8, 1994 2:59 PM
John, Had a conversation with Joe from Util. Unltd. on that same subject, ie. Buster Rev-09/11 swap, and I'm bummed; after all, now that C= is gone the 3.1 boards are going to be a real 'mother' to get… (Aw geesh, I had to say that!<VBG>) I also was not aware that the 3.1 was needed to run the 4091 controller, perhaps someone will smile kindly upon us and provide a source for 3.1 boards. In the meantime hippity-hop hippity-hop Edgar Haplessly happy on AP over Ojai
#144364From: Shawn RandolphMay 8, 1994 8:41 PM
I hope your right, After the smoke clears I hope the Amiga emerges stronger. Shawn
#144402From: John GagerMay 8, 1994 10:55 PM
I imagine after awhile, even Rev -11 Buster's are going to be quite scarce, not to mention 4000 mother/processor boards. I'm just glad I was able to get my 4000 upgraded before CBM pulled the plug. Hopefully that rumored asian buyer will decide there needs to be a better supply of parts than what's currently available. // John (Speeding on the Information Superhighway) \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net