#Educational Stuff
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I realize that you are probably not the correct person to send this to
but I hope you can get it to the correct person(s) to address my
problems/concrens.
I am a teacher at the University of Detroit Mercy School of
Architecture. We have taught AutoCAD since release 9. I was a
student at the school and learned much of what I know from my
experiences there. I am writing to express my concerns about the
current Educational pricing and general attitude of the company.
I recently changed full time jobs (I am an adjunct), and was asked to
learn MicroStation PC. After a few months working there I was
talking with some of the full time faculty and they asked me what I
thought, I told them that everywhere I interviewed was using
MicroStation . They asked what I thought of it, I said that there
were good and bad points but that AutoCAD was still better. They
then went to the Dean and talked and the next thing I knew I was
being asked to prepare to teach MicroStation. While we will still be
teaching AutoCAD as our main program we are offering MicroStation as
an elective.
One of the other issues is pricing. Any student, faculty or staff
member can buy AutoCAD for $900 or so, the school pays more than
that. I bought a copy of 3D Studio for $800 or so, the school pays
$1500. A student can buy MicroStation that includes many of the
features of both packages for $150. What wrong with that picture?
If I was a student buying a computer for school and wanted to have
legal copies of the software I was going to use what do you think I
would buy? No matter how big of a market share you quote ( I guess
its around 70%) the choice comes down to the Almighty buck. I buy
MicroStation. I learn MicroStation, I graduate, I use MicroStation.
MicroStation is doing exactly what you did a long time ago, making all
new graduates literate in their software. Like most schools our
budget is very limited while corporate America can pay out $3000 for
a program, asking the schools to teach a program that costs 10 times
what the competition is asking is a bit of a stretch. When we add
machines instead of adding $150 per station we now need to budget
$2500 per station. That severely limits our expansion if we are to
stick with AutoCAD. I realize that you need to make a buck too, but
what is the continued dominance of a market worth?
I still use and prefer AutoCAD over MicroStation but I could also
learn to like the $750 that I would save by using MicroStation. I
hope that AutoCAD never needs to include a MicroStation import
feature, but maybe it might not be a bad idea to start working on it
now, just in case.
I'm one of the Autodesk ETS' (Educational Training Specialist)
Your point should be (I hope) well taken at Autodesk. When 2 products
sit in front of you one at 150 and another at 800-1500 you have to
make a decision, you as an educator who likes autocad will bite the
bullet and buy autocad. Your administrator which is not as informed
as you will buy mircostation. Why? probably beacuse they do not
appreciate the difference between the two products. No percieved
difference, buy the cheapest.
I believe that this strategy can be extremely effective and
requires a response from Autodesk. BTW the ATC where I teach just got
nailed with a $300 cdn. upgrade fee per station from Integraph. How
do you like them apples?