CompuServe Thread

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#11150From: Michael A. NorthMay 1, 1995 5:59 PM
>>Thanks for letting me take up your time…I will check the docs (duh). I didn't really think to look for something as easy as new feature documents with the software. << Yes, there is an exlanation in the 3.2 doc, but I still had some trouble until someone (Charles Blaquiere on IML?) explained to me that you need to be careful with irregular shapes, so that you don't create faces that go outside your shape. I just put a message about this into another thread to Douglas Beard. Any relation? Michael
#11237From: Charles BlaquiereMay 2, 1995 7:12 PM
>> I still had some trouble until someone (Charles Blaquiere on IML?) explained to me that you<< Hey, someone who didn't need my user-friendly signature to refer to me by name! Thanks! With irregular shapes, like an ampersand (&), people need to build the shape in sections… or just use the Spline editor, of course. Blaq!
#11677From: Michael A. NorthMay 8, 1995 6:38 PM
>>Hey, someone who didn't need my user-friendly signature to refer to me by name! Thanks!<< Always want to acknowledge the IML stalwarts. I couldn't learn anything about this program without you. Michael
#11260From: Darin BeardMay 3, 1995 12:19 AM
GreG- I checked the docs for the SET LINE EDGE/FILL TO LINE EDGE and am still having a little trouble understanding it. I will just have to keep working at it. >> I just put a message about this into another thread to Douglas Beard. Any relation? << Yes, he is my brother. He only lives about 10 minutes from me. Thanks again, Darin
#11266From: GreG tsadilasMay 3, 1995 2:13 AM
Darin, I think you got me & Michael confused. <g> You replied to his message, but address it to me. 🙂 >> I checked the docs for the SET LINE EDGE/FILL TO LINE EDGE and am still having a little trouble understanding it. I will just have to keep working at it. << What are you having difficulty with? There've been several messages recently that touched on how it's used. Where are you getting stuck? Here, do this….add a sphere. Enter points mode. Pick DRAG BOX selection method. Shift select the middle three cross-sections. Delete them. Now enter edge mode. Shift select the bottom cross-section of the top hemisphere. Select SET EDGE LINE. Now Shift select the top cross-section of the bottom hemisphere. Select FILL TO EDGE LINE. This will connect the two hemispheres with faces. This is a simple example, but it shows you how it works. The real power here is in that it's not necessary for the two edges you're going to connect to have the same point count as is necessary with the SKIN function. This SET/FILL EDGE LINE is also usefull in facing holes in object geometry.
#11502From: Dennis L. SmithMay 6, 1995 3:40 AM
GreG, >What are you having difficulty with? There've been several messages recently that touched on how it's used. Where are you getting stuck? PMFJI on this long serries of threads, and for revealing my oun laziness, but I think what I was hoping to see or wanting to find in this fill feature is a three dimensional smooth that will remove the very obvious seams that often ocurr when intersecting objects to build an object for boning. I.e., we, or at least, I, was hoping to find a magic wand to assemble limbs in bone figures without getting "Star Wars action figure/Barby/ GI Joe" type joint lines… perhaps a way to tighten up the skin to lessen the discontinuity… I perceive that this still is a manual process of 2D point adjustment with smooth. Denny
#11567From: GreG tsadilasMay 7, 1995 1:54 AM
>> we, or at least, I, was hoping to find a magic wand to assemble limbs in bone figures without getting "Star Wars action figure/Barby/ GI Joe" type joint lines… perhaps a way to tighten up the skin to lessen the discontinuity… << Denny, This can be achieved to some degree by adding faces between cross-sections, but it's not the cure-all. You'd have to use SMOOTH EDGE LINE quite a bit to do this. For instance, as a test I converted a 6 sided sphere to a perfect 24 sided sphere by using fracture on the object a couple of times, and then SMOOTH EDGE LINE for each cross-section. However, no matter how you slice it, <g>, it's pretty much a manual thing for now. -GreG
#11676From: Michael A. NorthMay 8, 1995 6:38 PM
>>Here, do this….add a sphere. Enter points mode. Pick DRAG BOX selection method. Shift select the middle three cross-sections. Delete them. Now enter edge mode. Shift select the bottom cross-section of the top hemisphere. Select SET EDGE LINE. Now Shift select the top cross-section of the bottom hemisphere. Select FILL TO EDGE LINE. This will connect the two hemispheres with faces.<< Here's where another beginner might help. I had trouble because I didn't DEselect my first edge line before selecting the second. I kept getting the error message that some edges were in both sets. It's implict in your directions above, but if you keep the shift down between the two selections, you'll have a problem. Perhaps this is Darin's problem, but maybe not. Michael
#11701From: Darin BeardMay 8, 1995 9:59 PM
>>Perhaps this is Darin's problem, but maybe not.<< Well, sort of. I was selecting too many edges. I thought I was to MAKE EDGE LINE on both sets of edges and then fill between them. Now I understand that I just need to SET EDGE LINE with one set of edges and (after deselecting the edge line) select edges that I would like to fill from to the EDGE LINE set previously. Well, you know what I mean. <g> I have got the hang of it know. Thanks to all who lent helping hands. Darin
#11711From: GreG tsadilasMay 8, 1995 11:01 PM
>> I had trouble because I didn't DEselect my first edge line before selecting the second. << Michael, Thanks for pointing that out. You're right, someone may not realize that the first edge selection should be de-selected. I'll try to remember this, and be a little more specific when outlining steps that involve selections. -GreG