#Foreman/Schulz Fight
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Hi, Dom,
can't say really as I'm not really into boxing at all. Nonetheless I stayed up
until 5.20 AM to watch the fight. I thought Schulz was looking good, but I was
surprised Foreman was really moving! The last fights (they showed a portrait of
him before the actual fight) he seemed to just stand there and hit his
opponents senseless if they were stupid enough to go near him. 😉
Well, I learned a bit about the difference between amateur (that's where Schulz
and his coach are coming from) and professional boxing – in an amateur fight
Schulz would have won because he landed more punches than Foreman (each landed
hit counts). In pro-boxing that doesn't seem to count as much as 'looking
good', and Foreman definitely was looking like he was chasing Schulz around the
ring… Schulz maybe was a bit too passive in several phases of the fight so I
think the judges can't be really blamed for declaring him the winner (114-114,
115-113, and 115-113 points I believe they had to be quite impressed with
Schulz' effort). After all, this is big business – and the real BIG fight of
the century has got to be between Foreman and Tyson before some nobody like
Schulz may become world champion…
// Christian "ELP" Busse
\X/ near Frankfurt, Germany
Basically, a challenger really has to tear up the heavyweight champ to take the
title away, so the defender has a built in advantage. To give him his due,
though, I don't think the decision was ridiculous, but then I don't understand
pro boxing scoring. Round 11, for example, seemed like the most decisive round
of the match, in Foreman's favor, but the score was the same 10-9 as all the
other rounds. Also, as you say, there was the fact that Shulz was basically
retreating before Foreman for almost all the match, even when he was fighting
well. But Foreman's punches didn't seem to be up to par, and Shulz definitely
put on a good show.
Mr. Zombie
Paul,
> Round 11, for example, seemed like the most decisive round of the match,
in Foreman's favor, but the score was the same 10-9 as all the other rounds.
Scoring is on a 10 point must system. That is, the winner of every round has
to be given 10 points. The loser of the round is usually given 9 points, except
if he is knocked down, then he is given 8 points. If the round is a draw, then
both fighters get 10 points.
So, in practice, there are basically only 3 scores for a round. 10-10, if
the round is a draw. 10-9, for the winner of a round, when the opponent isn't
knocked down. 10-8, for the winner of a round, when the opponent is knocked
down, or else beaten senseless and has to take a standing 8 count. I don't
think I ever saw a 10-7 score.
Dom Fontana
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Oh, thanks Dom, that clears up the whole thing for me. I onle recently started
watching boxing, as you maybe can tell. ;^> Kind of an odd system though, it
seems.
Mr. Zombie
Paul,
> Kind of an odd system though, it seems.
Well, not really. 😎 In effect, you get 1 point if you win the round
(10-9), 2 points if you win the round really big, with a knockdown, etc.
(10-8), and no points if it's a draw (10-10).
Now, ice skating. That seems like an odd scoring system.
Dom Fontana
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Christian,
> After all, this is big business – and the real BIG fight of the century
has got to be between Foreman and Tyson before some nobody like Schulz may
become world champion…
Although technically, that shouldn't mean anything, in reality it does mean
something. Generally, you have to knock out or beat up the champion to get the
title, and Schulz didn't do that, But he did fight very well, indeed.
Dom Fontana
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