#Paper Curl 5P/5MP
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Finally, HP admits the 4P CURLS!! Maybe the stampede to their competitors has
made them see the light!
-Gene Palmer
I don't think that they ever denied that some 4Ps can curl excessively. There's
even an official document here in the libs that says so. What they do say is
that not *all* 4Ps curl. And they also say that there are certain things that
one can do to minimize the curl.
I've read their file about curling, and it mostly says if you don't use the
right paper or load it in the tray right, then it's your fault. I've found and
tried Xerox 4201, which HP says they test their printers on. Same old curled
results. If they know only some of the 4P's curl the paper badly, why don't
they list a range of serial numbers for them? I would be more then willing to
add mine to a survey list to get them started. I do believe that humidity and
types of paper have an effect on curl, but I've yet to find a paper that won't
roll off the desk after it comes out of the printer. I've tried the microwave
route, I've stored my paper in ziplock bags with an ounce of rice to remove
moisture, and I even considered rigging up a voodoo doll in the shape of the
printer to see if that would do the trick. Unfortunately, the only trick is on
the poor HP customer. I'm getting tired of bumping up the stock prices of
Office Max, Office Depot, Future Shop, etc. by buying every paper known to man.
One thing's for sure though, I won't be increasing the price of HP stock
anymore!
-Gene Palmer
Gene,
>> I've found and tried Xerox 4201, which HP says they test their printers on.
<<
FWIW, this is true. It's also true that Boise has quite low humidity.
– Dick Minnick [Ford],74417,51 @ 12-May-1995, 23:14:41 EST [Troy, MI]
Hi Dick,
Thanks for the Boise tip. I haven't tried that one yet. I recently tried
Xerox High Tech Laser Premium LX in 24 lb. which performed the best so far. At
$8.00 a ream it's pretty reasonable (Better then the Georgia-Pacific
LaserSmooth at $15.00). Geez, I work for Georgia-Pacific, and I can't even get
a discount from them!
-Gene Palmer
Gene,
>> Thanks for the Boise tip. I haven't tried that one yet <<
No, I didn't mean Boise *Paper*. I meant Boise, *Idaho*, where HP laser
printer divisions are located. This is where they run most of their testing,
and Boise is located on the north end of the Nevada desert, at the foot of the
mountains, and has very low prevailing humidity conditions.
Had their HQ been located in a more humid location, I believe that the
printer designs might have been slightly different <G>.
– Dick Minnick [Ford],74417,51 @ 15-May-1995, 22:48:38 EST [Troy, MI]
Dick,
No wonder I couldn't find the Boise paper <G>. Boy is my face red! I live in
western Washington State which isn't a hotbed of humid conditions, but I have
seen varying results with the same paper. You make a good point about the HP
facility location effecting design. Now if I can just convince the wife to move
to Boise……
-Gene Palmer