#Wordworth
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Paul,
>Was there an install routine to run? You need an assign add of libs: to point
also to the libs subdir in the WW dir. Also, WWProg is the actual executable.
No there wasn't. I suspect it was put together to be used off the disk
only, but it doesn't give me a good enough "taste" to know if I really want to
buy it.
>As to opinions… I have and use the current version of both FiW and WW. The
new patch update to WW 3.1r2 should arrive any day now, too, with some bug
fixes and featurettes. I like WW's interface more, but it's just not close to
as powerful as FiW. It doesn't have style tagging and it doesn't have ARexx,
two mortal sins in my book. But I use it for simply formatted things because
the display is more readable and the interface is far more pleasant.
At this point I only use wps for writing letters. I need one that will load
(with the correct default font) and allow me to write, spell-check and print
with a minimum of fuss. I find I'm constantly fighting with FW to have it do
it the way I want it done. It's constantly "forgetting" the default font (I do
click on the default box) that I set and the spell checker is a pain in the
neck to use. Not to mention that it takes forever for it to print out.
What is style tagging? I don't use AREXX (unless it's a built in macro or
something) so that's not a large issue for me. Besides, I suspect I'd keep FW
on the harddrive as I do own it…:)
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Asha
Asha-
Well, just for writing letters, WW is fine. I don't understand the problem
with FiW, though. Printing speed is mostly a function of your printer. If you
have to print graphically, it'll be slow. WW *does*, though, give you some
ability to use builtin printer fonts if you have the right printer, but it's a
limited ability.
Mr. Zombie
Paul,
>Well, just for writing letters, WW is fine. I don't understand the problem
with FiW, though. Printing speed is mostly a function of your printer.
My main problems with FW is not the printing speed, although that is another
thing that irritates me about the problem. It is definitely FW, not my printer
though… I've printed letters through Prowrite, using Compugraphic fonts, and
they output a lot faster than FW.
My main problems with FW is the user interface which is not (to me)
intuitive, forces me to use the mouse much more than I feel one should on a
keyboard intensive program, and doesn't always work as it should (setting
default fonts for example). I don't want to have to fight to use a wp just to
write a few letters.
BTW yesterday you suggested extending the libs: assignment so that WW (the
demo) could run off the harddrive. I'm not sure how to do that.
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Asha
Asha-
For the WW demo, I think I got it running off my hd, but I'm not sure. Also, I
think I had an old 3.0 demo, and long ago, so things may have changed, but what
I have to do now is:
assign libs: <your device:><your path/>Wordworth3/libs add
This may or may not help you.
But for keyboard usefulness, WW is generally better. Escape works to cancel
almost every requester, unlike in FiW, where it simply isn't implemented.
Otoh, there's no keyboard equivalent for select all, which irks me.
Do you have a laser printer? If so, it should probably have some resident
fonts like Courier, which WW supports up to a point.
Mr. Zombie
Paul,
Thanks…. I'll give it another try, but I suspect I'll probably order the
program soon from what I've heard here and elsewhere.
I'll be printing on an HP DeskJet 500C. Part of the reason I use a word
processor instead of a text editor is that I like to print out the fancier (my
current fave is a script type font) font to personalize the letters I write.
I'm not sure what resident fonts (if any) the HP has.
Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot
Asha
>But for keyboard usefulness, WW is generally better. Escape works
>to cancel almost every requester, unlike in FiW, where it simply
>isn't implemented.
You can't really blame Final Writer for this, since Esc is not an Amiga
standard for Cancel. PageStream3 doesn't use it either. In v2.2, we used Esc to
clear a text gadget, but that was a holdover from the Atari version, so we
eliminated that in 3.0. We didn't use Esc for anything else in 3.0's requesters
because it might confuse people switching from 2.2. (Several people complained
that Esc was broken, since they didn't know to use Rt Amiga X.) But it's been
long enough now that we can probably use Esc again, and since we'll need to use
it to cancel dialog boxes in the Mac version, I requested today that it be
added to the Amiga version, too. So look forward to it in either 3.0h or 3.0i.
Cheers,
Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing
True enough, though I think Escape to cancel is sort of a ReqTools standard.
<G> Anyway, it makes things a lot easier. But believe me, I'd sacrafice it
all to have ARexx and style tagging.
Mr. Zombie
Esc has now been added for PageStream3. (Is that fast service or what? 😉
It'll show up in the 3.0h update. Note that the text cursor cannot be in a text
gadget when you press Esc, same as pressing Return to choose Ok. This has to do
with using system text gadgets I think. The Mac and Windows versions will let
you escape even if the cursor is in a text gadget.
Cheers,
Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing