CompuServe Thread

#Wordworth

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#196765From: Asha DeVelderMay 12, 1995 6:33 PM
Paul, >Was there an install routine to run? You need an assign add of libs: to point also to the libs subdir in the WW dir. Also, WWProg is the actual executable. No there wasn't. I suspect it was put together to be used off the disk only, but it doesn't give me a good enough "taste" to know if I really want to buy it. >As to opinions… I have and use the current version of both FiW and WW. The new patch update to WW 3.1r2 should arrive any day now, too, with some bug fixes and featurettes. I like WW's interface more, but it's just not close to as powerful as FiW. It doesn't have style tagging and it doesn't have ARexx, two mortal sins in my book. But I use it for simply formatted things because the display is more readable and the interface is far more pleasant. At this point I only use wps for writing letters. I need one that will load (with the correct default font) and allow me to write, spell-check and print with a minimum of fuss. I find I'm constantly fighting with FW to have it do it the way I want it done. It's constantly "forgetting" the default font (I do click on the default box) that I set and the spell checker is a pain in the neck to use. Not to mention that it takes forever for it to print out. What is style tagging? I don't use AREXX (unless it's a built in macro or something) so that's not a large issue for me. Besides, I suspect I'd keep FW on the harddrive as I do own it…:) Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot Asha
#196818From: Paul IdolMay 13, 1995 12:27 AM
Asha- Well, just for writing letters, WW is fine. I don't understand the problem with FiW, though. Printing speed is mostly a function of your printer. If you have to print graphically, it'll be slow. WW *does*, though, give you some ability to use builtin printer fonts if you have the right printer, but it's a limited ability. Mr. Zombie
#196900From: Asha DeVelderMay 13, 1995 7:24 PM
Paul, >Well, just for writing letters, WW is fine. I don't understand the problem with FiW, though. Printing speed is mostly a function of your printer. My main problems with FW is not the printing speed, although that is another thing that irritates me about the problem. It is definitely FW, not my printer though… I've printed letters through Prowrite, using Compugraphic fonts, and they output a lot faster than FW. My main problems with FW is the user interface which is not (to me) intuitive, forces me to use the mouse much more than I feel one should on a keyboard intensive program, and doesn't always work as it should (setting default fonts for example). I don't want to have to fight to use a wp just to write a few letters. BTW yesterday you suggested extending the libs: assignment so that WW (the demo) could run off the harddrive. I'm not sure how to do that. Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot Asha
#196928From: Paul IdolMay 14, 1995 12:54 AM
Asha- For the WW demo, I think I got it running off my hd, but I'm not sure. Also, I think I had an old 3.0 demo, and long ago, so things may have changed, but what I have to do now is: assign libs: <your device:><your path/>Wordworth3/libs add This may or may not help you. But for keyboard usefulness, WW is generally better. Escape works to cancel almost every requester, unlike in FiW, where it simply isn't implemented. Otoh, there's no keyboard equivalent for select all, which irks me. Do you have a laser printer? If so, it should probably have some resident fonts like Courier, which WW supports up to a point. Mr. Zombie
#197048From: Asha DeVelderMay 15, 1995 12:49 AM
Paul, Thanks…. I'll give it another try, but I suspect I'll probably order the program soon from what I've heard here and elsewhere. I'll be printing on an HP DeskJet 500C. Part of the reason I use a word processor instead of a text editor is that I like to print out the fancier (my current fave is a script type font) font to personalize the letters I write. I'm not sure what resident fonts (if any) the HP has. Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot Asha
#197081From: Soft-Logik Tech SupportMay 15, 1995 12:44 PM
>But for keyboard usefulness, WW is generally better. Escape works >to cancel almost every requester, unlike in FiW, where it simply >isn't implemented. You can't really blame Final Writer for this, since Esc is not an Amiga standard for Cancel. PageStream3 doesn't use it either. In v2.2, we used Esc to clear a text gadget, but that was a holdover from the Atari version, so we eliminated that in 3.0. We didn't use Esc for anything else in 3.0's requesters because it might confuse people switching from 2.2. (Several people complained that Esc was broken, since they didn't know to use Rt Amiga X.) But it's been long enough now that we can probably use Esc again, and since we'll need to use it to cancel dialog boxes in the Mac version, I requested today that it be added to the Amiga version, too. So look forward to it in either 3.0h or 3.0i. Cheers, Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing
#197087From: Paul IdolMay 15, 1995 1:26 PM
True enough, though I think Escape to cancel is sort of a ReqTools standard. <G> Anyway, it makes things a lot easier. But believe me, I'd sacrafice it all to have ARexx and style tagging. Mr. Zombie
#197101From: Soft-Logik Tech SupportMay 15, 1995 5:20 PM
Esc has now been added for PageStream3. (Is that fast service or what? 😉 It'll show up in the 3.0h update. Note that the text cursor cannot be in a text gadget when you press Esc, same as pressing Return to choose Ok. This has to do with using system text gadgets I think. The Mac and Windows versions will let you escape even if the cursor is in a text gadget. Cheers, Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing
#196822From: Paul IdolMay 13, 1995 12:27 AM
Oh, and for my pathetic explanation of style tagging, see my message to C. Davey Utter in this thread. Mr. Zombie