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#Cardinal SnapPlus

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#4590From: Robert KaufmannApr 11, 1995 9:22 PM
I am considering purchase of a system which uses the Cardinal SnapPlus as a video capture board. It is my understanding that this board also has a VGA video board included in the design. I will be mainly capturing stills. Does anyone have any experience with this product ? Thanks Rob
#4606From: Timothy LiebeApr 12, 1995 9:47 AM
>I am considering purchase of a system which uses the Cardinal SnapPlus as a video capture board. It is my understanding that this board also has a VGA video board included in the design. I will be mainly capturing stills. Does anyone have any experience with this product ?< No personal experience, but I can't say I've heard anything good about it–and when I asked Cardinal to send me a SnapPlus! board so I could review it for VIDEO, they never got back to me… What I *do* know is it captures video at 320 x 240 pixels, which ain't real good for still capture, then extrapolates it up to 640 x 480. If you want still capture mainly (w/some motion video capability for .AVI files), try getting the Intel Smart Video Recorder Pro–it captures 640 x 480 at 2 fps, and can capture 240 x 180 at 30 fps. Also, the Miro DC1 or Fast Movie Machine sound like good, inexpensive choices if you'd like video capture capability in and output… Hope this helps, Tim Liebe
#4620From: John SmallApr 12, 1995 3:30 PM
And the $200 Snappy from Play, Inc. for stills. Connects to parallel port and give very very hi res results. What I've heard from a couple of users is two thumbs up, way up. Just now shipping. I understand Tiger has it. -jts
#4635From: Timothy LiebeApr 13, 1995 8:56 AM
John: > And the $200 Snappy from Play, Inc. for stills. Connects to parallel port and give very very hi res results. < Good one! I had intended to suggest it myself, but the post I was responding to (it seemed) mentioned the motion video option as well as stills, so I didn't want to recommend a piece of equipment that could do one but not the other… Best, Tim
#4639From: Jeff SauerApr 13, 1995 10:03 AM
There was kind of an exciting announce about Snappy at NAB. Play has given the distribution of Snappy to Minolta. I think that is a pretty good endorsement of the the Snappy product. Minolta says they expect to sell 25,000 in the first year. For Play this creates a cash stream very much necessary for their continued development of Trinity. It also removes a marketing and distribution burden that could easily have drained their resources to either inoperability or ineffectiveness. As you may know, Snappy was really an unexpected off-shoot of the Trinity development. As they were developing the custom ASICs to make Trinity, they realized the one of them could do this fantastic still frame processing. They were not expecting to market that kind of product so the Minolta deal really works well.
#4641From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPApr 13, 1995 10:28 AM
Thanks for the report, Jeff! Where do you figure Minolta is going to market the Snappy, Retail Computer Stores, Computer Supermarkets, Camera Stores?
#4668From: Jeff SauerApr 14, 1995 10:02 AM
I don't know, but those would be my bets.
#4692From: henry tellerApr 15, 1995 8:43 AM
Hi Again Jeff – Actually, I believe that the Snappy card is the results of NewTek's DigiView capture card for the Amiga, released in 1985. The Play, Inc people are mostly ex-NewTek members, combined with Digital Creations and Progressive Image Technologies. DC and PIT have video experience producing the DCTV, SuperGen and promised VMachine for the Amiga. Since the Snappy can't do realtime capture, it won't figure in the Trinity system, which Play announced would be a Dec'95 release. NewTek funded it's Video Toaster development on the DigiView. Hank Videology, Inc Where service is our product
#4700From: Timothy LiebeApr 15, 1995 2:16 PM
Hank: >Since the Snappy can't do realtime capture, it won't figure in the Trinity system, which Play announced would be a Dec'95 release.< Any idea how it works, then? Do you have to use a freeze-frame for still capture (like you do w/the Studio Magic board), or can it at least "grab" a single frame on the fly and digitize it later? Best, Tim
#4738From: henry tellerApr 16, 1995 10:27 PM
The only part of the Trinity system I remember seeing demo'd was the great paint package they had. Like the Toaster, they showed an integrated system giving rapid access to all the funtions, but many of the functions were not finished yet. Since I'm not familiar with the Studio Magic board, I can't comment. I do know that the Flyer captures video in full flight, at 30fps, and lets you extract single frames from the video clips later for single frame image processing. That would be the way I expect the Trinity to work. The resolution of the Snappy is really too high for video work, anyway.
#4744From: Timothy LiebeApr 17, 1995 9:12 AM
Hank: >The resolution of the Snappy is really too high for video work, anyway.< Yeah, but it's a pretty good bet for desktop publishing, which I also do. Grabbing a 640×480 image (which I currently do) and altering the resolution to 225 dpi results in a 2.5" x 3.25" picture, which is a bit small… Thanks! Tim Liebe
#4753From: Jeff SauerApr 17, 1995 9:01 PM
>>Actually, I believe that the Snappy card…<< Snappy is not a card but rather a custom ASIC inside a dongle that does the image processing. You may be right that it will not have a role in Trinity, but that is what I was told by Mark Randall (one of those who came from New Tek). Mark is a shrewd marketeer and may have "enhanced" the Snappy story, but on the surface it makes sense. What I saw of Trinity at NAB was some incredible image processing in both a paint program and a couple DVEs. They seem to have plenty of work left to do, but image processing they seem to be doing quite well. If you know some of the technical specifics of about what they are doing, I'd love to hear them.
#4763From: henry tellerApr 17, 1995 11:03 PM
Jeff – You're right! I'd forgotten. Since the Snappy is like the Digi-View, it is a box that plugs into the PC parallel port and captures still stores that way. I picked up one of the Trinity brochures, and haven't seen any other specs. Hank Videology, Inc Where service is our product
#4613From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPApr 12, 1995 1:13 PM
Robert, In this world of "but it and its obsolete" I would receommend staying away from a capture board that combines as your video display card. Something like the $199 Snappy board from Play, Inc. plugs into your parallel port and does a nice job at capturing still frames (only).
#4614From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPApr 12, 1995 1:26 PM
er, "buy it and its obsolete"