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#Imaging Program Required

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#170726From: Tim BousteadMay 18, 1995 9:16 AM
Perhaps someone here can help me. I want to be able to take a group of scanned house photos, and replace the exterior brick, siding, etc. with a variety of scanned in brick samples to see what different houses look like with different exteriors. The problem is that the people using this will be your average salesman, not a graphics or computer professional. It needs to be 'programmed' so they can just point and click various house and brick samples and see the results. If anyone knows of such a product, or knows someone who can create one please let me know. Oh ya, one last problem… it has to be used on a typical IBM compatible (386/486) PC.
#170836From: Brandon BartlettMay 18, 1995 8:08 PM
A simple solution would be to pre-render, or create ahead of time, all the possiblities (unless there are a prohibitively large amount of them) and have someone who does multimeda authoring (try the MACROMEDIA forum) to create a program that will link these images together the way you want. If this isn't clear, I'll explain more. Hope this helps some.
#170860From: Tim BousteadMay 18, 1995 9:49 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. If the option count was fairly low this would be the way to go, however I think there would be too many combinations. There would probably be 50 or more brick samples, a dozen houses, 6 roofing colors, and 6 trim types. I haven't done the math but it doesn't look good <g>. Also, if we added a new brick type it would mean doing a *lot* of new image editing. Tim.
#170888From: James Coulter[Mindscape]May 19, 1995 1:58 AM
If you just created the component image elements separately (ie all roofs, all trims, all sidings), you could use a program like DTA to composit them on demand. The MM autoring program would simply need to call DOS and provide the correct syntax for DTA to do the compositing. The finished image could then be called-up and displayed by the authoring program. This has two big advantages: 1) you don't have to have to create and store all the final combinations — just the components; 2) You can add component images at any time without having to do a bunch of extra work.
#170926From: Tim BousteadMay 19, 1995 9:04 AM
Thanks for the reply. Sounds like what I'm looking for. Could you explain your suggestion in a little more detail. I think I understand the concept you are suggesting but I'm not familiar with DTA or multimedia authoring tools. What exactly is DTA, who makes it, and what MM authoring program are you talking about?
#171206From: James Coulter[Mindscape]May 22, 1995 1:47 AM
> Could you explain your suggestion in a little more detail. < The idea is that you create each object with either an Alpha channel or a key color for compositing purposes. If using 3DS for your modeling, it's straight forward – just render each component of the house individually (siding, roof, fascia, trim, etc.), with all other objects as matte objects. Select Render Alpha in the render dialog and it will generate the alpha channel. If you're using photoshop, you'll have to manually create a matte for each house component, then save it as an alpha channel using the channels option. A key color (like a green background will work, but it's not as clean an can cause problems with similar colors in the subject of the image. Repeat this process for each style of each part of the house (ie 3 shingle types, three siding types, etc.). You might also want to create a simple tile of the material for use in your MM app for the user to select in assocaition with the relevant house compenent. Now comes DTA (Dave's Targa Animator). It's a command line utlity for converting formats and for compositing TGA files. It may be in the libs of this forum or if not, look in the GRAPHDEV or one of the other graphics forums. Because it's a command line utility, it only requires soure and destination image names and a few parameters — no GUI to interfere with your MM app. All your authoring program needs to do is give the user a way of identifying the proper styles and then construct the appropriate command line for DTA to process the images. This a straight-forward programming concept. The hard part is getting the authoring program to interface with DOS. I have only rudimentary knowlege of authoring apps, but the key is to find one that lets you pass a command to DOS and control the screen output (so the user isn't looking at a bunch of strange DOS commands flying accross the screen). Once the command is executed and your finished image is produced by DTA, your MM app can load and display the image for the user. At this point, I suggust you download DTA (probably DTA.ZIP) and read the docs. This should give you a better idea of whether this approach will work for you. After that, start looking for an MM authoring app that lets you pass commands to DOS. There are probably others in this forum that could recommend one for you. — James — Choreo Motion —
#171844From: Tim BousteadMay 25, 1995 10:42 AM
Thanks for the detailed reply. I think I understand the principle behind your suggestion. I do have Photoshop, however I've barely used it as of yet. If I'm going to attempt to do this myself, I'll have to spend a significant amount of time with Photoshop 1st. I'm assuming if you knew of a particular MM authoring program that would work in this app. you would have mentioned it, so I'll have to browse for multimedia related forums and post queries there. Thanks for the suggestions
#171058From: Brandon BartlettMay 20, 1995 1:55 PM
>>If you just created the component image elements separately (ie all roofs, all trims, all sidings), you could use a program like DTA to composit them on demand. << Cool! I didn't realize DTA could do stuff like that. I'll have to look into that. Thanks! Best Regards, Brandon DesignTec
#173127From: Forcade & AssociatesJun 1, 1995 4:00 PM
You might also check out Asymetrix Toolbook for MM authoring. It has a fully progammable interface that I think is more intuitive than Director.
#172773From: ORVAL J. MILESMay 31, 1995 6:23 AM
iAGREE, YOUR QUICKEST ANSWER WOULD BE MICROMEDIA DIRECTOR.