#Can I get connected?
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I downloaded AmiTCP and PPP. Are those 2 files enough to get connected with the
Internet? With my present knowledge (very little–If any) what are my chances
of getting anything up and running with my Amiga 1200 and CompuServe? Is it
possible for someone like me to eventually get connected? I'm reading the
installation instructions for AmiTCP/IP but would need every sentence
translated into normal everyday language that I could understand. Should I play
golf instead?
Hitting fairways and greens!
Joan,
It is my studied opinion that you will learn anything that you decide to learn!
And yes, you can learn to use the Internet via CompuServe. However, other
people will have to help you with this one, because I've not yet taken the time
to install it on my own computer.
I used to follow the Internet faithfully. For several years – back when the
Amiga was young, and many Internet people were excited about it – I read their
messages every day. But eventually, my Internet account went away, and I moved
into other things, and I just haven't jumped back into it now that it has
become THE thing to do. So I'm sorry, but I can't be of help.
—Betty
Joan,
I send you a message which was posted here some time ago regarding installation
of AmiTCP and PPP.
A message dated 13-Apr-95 from Jochen Antesberger 73064,3302 follows:
Hi steve,
it isn't that difficult to set AmiTCP up. I knew NOTHING about it but anyhow I
got it working. Get AmiTCP 4.0, PPP 1.30 and AMosaic1.2. Start the Installer.
It asks for the default user which I answered with Jochen. The script then sets
this user up, asks for realname password… Then come the important things: It
asks wether your connection is dynamic, answer with yes. Enter Your Domain
name: compuserve.com Select the network interface type to be used: PPP Select
the network interface to be used: PPP … a default IP address for the
interface ppp0 … : 0.0.0.0 Give the destination address for the
point-to-point interface ppp0:
149.174.64.25 Bypass the networkmask by giving an emptystring
This is the information you gave for this interface: Interface: ppp0 Interface
address: 0.0.0.0 Destination address: 149.174.64.25 Netmask: <use default>
Is this correct? YES
Enter the IP address of the default gateway: 149.174.64.25 Enter the IP
addresses of the name servers: 149.174.64.41 <- Important! This question comes
again then. Give an emptystring. Give domain names (one at a time) to search:
compuserve.com This question comes again then. Give an emptystring. Do you want
Installer to make the required changes to your User-Startup?
I suggest You say yes. Do you want the Inetd to be started at the AmiTCP/IP
startup? YES
There are some other parts in the installation too which You should be able to
do. You don't need any SANAII drivers to install by this script (see below).
Unarchive PPP1_30.lha. There are two versions of ppp.device for different
CPU's. Copy one of them to devs:networks/ as ppp.device
Add the following line to amitcp:db/interfaces:
ppp0 DEV=DEVS:Networks/ppp.device UNIT=0 IPTYPE=33 NOARP P2P
Take this as Your amitcp:bin/startnet file
AmiTCP:bin/online ppp0
AmiTCP:AmiTCP
WaitForPort AMITCP
; Configure loop-back device
AmiTCP:bin/ifconfig lo0 localhost
; Configure ppp0
AmiTCP:bin/ifconfig ppp0 $ppp0IPLocal $ppp0IPRemote
; Add route to this host
AmiTCP:bin/route add $ppp0IPLocal localhost
; Add route to the default gateway
AmiTCP:bin/route add default $ppp0IPRemote
SetEnv HOSTNAME `AmiTCP:bin/hostname`
Assign >NIL: TCP: EXISTS
IF WARN
Mount TCP: FROM AmiTCP:devs/inet-mountlist
EndIF
; Start the internet `super server'
Run <NIL: >NIL: AmiTCP:bin/inetd
Next You make a directory sana2 in envarc: makedir envarc:sana2 In this
directory is the PPP configfile ppp0.config:
serial.device 0 19200 0.0.0.0 7WIRE LOG=40 REMOTEIP=149.174.64.25
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I tried BaudBandit.device but this didn't work ?!?! The
serialrate of 19200bps is enough since CIS supports speeds up to 14400 without
datacompression.
Add to the amitcp:bin/stopnet file the line
offline ppp0
Your system should be ready for TCP/IP now (at least I hope so 🙂
AMosaic: Unfortunately You need MUI for it. I for myself have the Goldfish2 CD
with MUI installed. After starting the net (see below) I simply start the
AmiTCP-version by doubleclicking the Icon (I only copied the executable to HD,
MUI runs from CD)
Starting the NET:
I don't use a dialupscript because in 8bit mode the CIS hostname and User-ID
messages are garbled. Instead I cd to amitcp:bin Then I start a small terminal:
HFT, it opens a window on Workbench needs not much memory… I only have to set
baudrate to 19200 manually. Your modem must have AT&D0 set, so it stays off
hook after loosing DTR signal. Dial CIS:
CONNECT19200/V32.bis 14400/V42 <RETURN> (The following is garbled, so type
blind) Host Name: CIS <RETURN>
User ID: <Your ID>/GO:PPPCONNECT — forexample 73064,3302/GO:PPPCONNECT
password: <guess what>
You have left basic services…
At this point You leave the terminal (quit it). type at the shellprompt:
execute startnet (if you set the s-bit You need the execute not)
Thats it! If everything goes right PPP makes a connection. Then comes the
AmiTCP-Demo window with some licencetext which you can leave after 5 secs or
so. The last output comes from the addroute commands and a few seconds later
(maybe 15 or so) the shell prompt comes back!
Now You should be part of Internet.
At this point I have no problems with Telnet or Mosaic. Only FTP seems to make
trouble. NcFTP brings a message about HOSTNAME and that I should recompile it
with HOSTNAME definded??? Maybe some experienced Internet guy can help here??
Normal FTP from Aminet4-CD connects but mostly says then remote host quits
connection. The command was for 2.x, maybe it has trouble with AmiTCP 4.0 ??
But You wanted WWW, now You have it.
If there are some mistakes in this text I would be happy if someone corrects
me. Any help about FTP is welcome too!!! cya Jochen Antesberger from Neuburg
a.d. Donau – Bavaria/Germany Titanic – Hindenburg – Challenger – Intel Pentium
… what comes NeXT?
—-end of message
Best regards
Erich Kuester from Krefeld Germany on AutoPilot 1.80
Thanks for your answer to my question about Internet connections.
In your directions: Unarchive PPP1.30.lha. There are two versions of ppp.device
for different CPU's. Copy one of them to devs:networks/ as ppp.device.
I found the ppp.device for my CPU. Where is the devs I'm copying this to? Is it
the Devs in my workbench? Do I rename the thing I'm putting in there the
networks/ppp.device? If I'm not renaming it networks/ppp.device, where did it
get that name?
In writing that startnet file. Do I write it in ED then name it startnet? And
after I do that where do I put it?
How do I find the amitcp:db/interface in order to put the line you mentioned?
I know these questions are basic knowledge for most people but I can't read
between the lines with my current computer knowledge. A lot of these
directions leave out a few basics that beginners like me need to have supplied.
Thanks, Joan
Hitting fairways and greens!
Joan,
you wrote
>In your directions: Unarchive PPP1.30.lha. There are two versions of
ppp.device for different CPU's. Copy one of them to devs:networks/ as
ppp.device.<
Make a new directory networks in devs: and execute the commands
copy …PPP/devs/ppp.device.XXX.eval to devs:networks
rename devs:networks/ppp.device.XXX.eval devs:networks/ppp.device
>In writing that startnet file. Do I write it in ED then name it startnet? And
after I do that where do I put it?<
After installing AmiTCP you find in directory AmiTCP:bin a file name startnet,
you do not need to write it yourself. You must only edit it a little.
>How do I find the amitcp:db/interface in order to put the line you mentioned?>
Same as before. This file exists after correct installation and must be edited.
>I know these questions are basic knowledge for most people but I can't read
between the lines with my current computer knowledge. A lot of these
directions leave out a few basics that beginners like me need to have
supplied.<
Don't mind, go ahead.
Best regards
Erich
Erich,
I think I erased what was in the startnet file and replaced it with the lines
you gave me. Now that file is not executable. How do I get the original one
back to start over? Should I retype the AmiTCP:bin/startup file that starts
.key IPADDRESS?
Is it a 0(zero) or a O(Capital o) in the startnet file?
Hitting fairways and greens!
Joan,
my startnet file looks like the following
; log in
; go online
online devs:networks/ppp.device 0
echo
AmiTCP:bin/umask 022
AmiTCP:AmiTCP
WaitForPort AMITCP
; Configure loop-back device
AmiTCP:bin/ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1
; Configure ppp0
AmiTCP:bin/ifconfig ppp0 $ppp0iplocal $ppp0ipremote
; Add route to this host
AmiTCP:bin/route add $ppp0iplocal 127.0.0.1
; Add route to the default gateway
AmiTCP:bin/route add default $ppp0ipremote
setenv HOSTNAME `AmiTCP:bin/hostname`
Assign TCP: Exists > NIL:
IF Warn
Mount TCP: from AmiTCP:devs/Inet-Mountlist
EndIf
please delete the first space every line and add an empty line at the end (do
not know if it is needed 🙂 There 1 (one) Capital o in the file at HOSTNAME.
Do not forget to execute the command
protect amitcp:bin/startnet srwed
to tell the system that this is an executable script. You must have RexxMast in
you WbStartup drawer and the program WaitforPort in your search path.
Installing AmiTCP is like a treasure hunt.
Erich