CompuServe Thread

B&P Upgrade Price?!

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#25686From: Patrick BeaudineJan 16, 1993 6:18 PM
To Blue Ribbon Soundworks: I just received your notice to upgrade to B&P PRO. I see that you say you have added many of the tools from your Add-On series. I have all the Add-On series modules which I have purchased within the last year: Music Box A Music Box B Creativity Kit Internal Sounds Kit Multi-Media Kit (The 'Media Madness Tool' sounds like the 'Cue Card') Pro Studio Kit Rules For Tools All these kits cost me $260.00 + the price of B&P 1.0c $230.00 and the 1.0e upgrade which I paid $15 only 2 months after buying version 1.0c — and all this within the last year. I have spent $500.00 within the last year for Bars And Pipes products. What does this version 2.0 upgrade offer that justifies the hefty $99.00 upgrade fee. There is not a single software company which has recently offered upgrades that is charging so much for so little. What justifies this upgrade charge in the light that I own all the above Add-On kits? Can I get some sort of price compromise that reflects your support for Add-On kits I just purchased. Please reply directly (i.e. long term memory rather than short term greed). Patrick Beaudine (registered owner)
#25698From: Dominick J. FontanaJan 17, 1993 7:14 AM
Patrick, > "There is not a single software company which has recently offered upgrades that is charging so much for so little." < I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. 😎 First, very little existing music software for the Amiga is even supported, let alone updated. Second, B&P Pro 2.0 is a major upgrade that has been in development for over one year, and the upgrade shows it. It has a tremendous amount of new features, besides simply incorporating some prior tools directly into the program. Besides, how can you say that Blue Ribbon is giving you "so little", when you haven't seen the program yet? 😎 Also, INOVAtronics just upgraded Dir Opus and is charging $45.00 for the upgrade and that's basically just a directory utility. Yet, I paid the upgrade fee and I feel it was worth the money. I think that you'll find that Bars&Pipes Pro 2.0 is also worth the upgrade fee. I expect that Melissa will also answer you. I just thought I'd give my opinion, for what it's worth. Thanks. Dom Fontana <– Sent from New York via AutoPilot –>
#25713From: Jan 17, 1993 7:45 PM
Dear Patrick, Thank you for allowing me to repsond to your concerns. As I said to John Pendergrass, the enhanced and updated Add-on Series Tools are only a small part of what makes Bars&Pipes Professional 2.0. I realize that you may own earlier and less-capable versions of these Tools, but you've had the benefit of them long before others have. Bars&Pipes Professional 2.0 includes many significant enhancements, including a completely rewritten and improved manual, better notation, Groove Quantize, Tem0o Tap, Rubato tempo mapping and of course, Media Madness, capable of being an entire program in and of itself. The Blue Ribbon SoundWorks has always made its best efforts to give you innovative, top-quality tools. We'd like to keep doing so and rely on your support. When we priced this upgrade, we first consulted with a team of beta testers who had the opportunity to see Bars&Pipes Professional first hand. The unequivocally felt that $99 was a fair valuation. I think you will, too. Please also keep in mind that Blue Ribbon continues to support the Amiga market, long after other music software companies have abandoned it. That's worth something right there… Melissa
#25758From: Howard WootenJan 19, 1993 3:27 AM
Melissa, Patrick, I think the $99 upgrade price falls within reasonable limits. Over the past year I've purchased three add-on kits because I _needed_ the added features for commercial MIDI production. Bars_Pipes Pro has become the heart of my MIDI studio, (I never thought I'd say that <g>) and quite frankly $99 seems a small price to pay for a major upgrade. Thanks to B&P_Pro's wonderful SMPTE support my small studio is starting to turn a profit and I don't have to bust my buns gigging as much. That's definitely worth many times the upgrade price. Howard – via Whap!
#25766From: Jan 19, 1993 12:39 PM
Dear Howard, Thank you so much for your support. I'm thrilled to hear that we're meeting your expectations. I know you'll be pleased with Bars&Pipes Professional 2.0. Again, thanks… Melissa
#25821From: Howard WootenJan 20, 1993 6:31 PM
Melissa, I'm finding Bars&Pipes_Pro to be a very good all around production tool. I think it's a good idea to include as many tools and accessories as possible with the 2.0 release, several tools, (velocity & duration come to mind) are necessary for serious editing. After all, you do want to put your best foot forward. 🙂 Also, your product support is second to none. Howard – via Whap!
#25839From: Jan 21, 1993 8:16 AM
Dear Howard, Bars&Pipes Professional 2.0 includes dozens of new Tools and Accessories. Melissa