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#laser disk

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#17130From: sherwood egbertJun 13, 1992 3:36 PM
gary, is it possible to use the sony lvr5000 laser disk system as a master for making copys of just readable laser disks ? the idea is to make animations that doctors can play continuously over and over again for patients. but i don't what to pay the mastering fee each time i create a custom application and the disk will need to only make one or two copys per doctor. so i would like to store all the animations on the 5000's master disk and just bring that in to make a copy to regular laser disk that they can pop into there laserplayer and hit the repeat button. this possible or am i too far ahead of technology right now?
#17138From: Yost GroupJun 13, 1992 8:27 PM
Sherwood, A master for a regular laserdisc (in CAV or CLV format) can be produced using almost any video format. The most typical is BetacamSP or 1", but the LVR laserdisc format would work fine as well. Check with your local laserdisc mastering facility for what formats they accept. If you want to use the LVR masters _themselves_ as playback media, you're going to have to install LVP-7000 or LVP-3500 component laserdisc players in the doctors offices. Those cost close to $7K each, but allow tremendous programmability. Does that answer your question?
#17150From: sherwood egbertJun 14, 1992 1:26 AM
yes and no. what i was going to was render the clients presentation to the lvr and then take that to the masterer and have him make a copy of the segment of frames to say a sony laser disk that can be played back on any laser disk you find at silo. or that matter on any comsumer laser disk (video) playback unit. is it possible?
#17167From: Yost GroupJun 14, 1992 1:25 PM
It's possible, as long as the laserdisc mastering facility has access to an lvr to play your master disc. Otherwise you'll either have to take your lvr unit to the facility or have your disc dubbed to Betacam first.
#17187From: David R. WestJun 15, 1992 10:50 AM
Sherwood, After reading your threads, I think it might be worthwhile to contact the Laser Disc Recording Center in Cambridge,MA.(617)-354-7628 They are just coming on line with a number of ways to master discs. Talk to Greg Greene. David West
#17199From: sherwood egbertJun 15, 1992 2:02 PM
thanks i will. sherwood
#17207From: MARTIN G FOSTERJun 15, 1992 2:55 PM
hey sherwood, now it's doctors, huh? What happened to your WWII airplanes animations for Wings (or some TV prog)? I'd like to see that. Martin
#17229From: sherwood egbertJun 15, 1992 7:09 PM
there being done once a month, this month its the p51 mustang. next month its the spitfire… the reason for the doctors is that some company is charging them 5,000 for a software package and 2000 for the hardware(16mhz 386sx) to run demo's in there office so patients can see a befor and after. there getting RIPPED the software does not let you even change the presentation. you have to send in a picture(s) and they incorperate it into the presentation if you want it customized, and they charge you for that to!. so i told them i would do it for the cost of the hardware a laser disk system and i told them i would get back to them once i found out about the mastering costs and all that(should probably be in the 2k to 3k range) for the whole system i'm thinking , but i'm still researching it. what do you think would be more cost effective method besides this company's unreal costs? it just blew me away when they said 7700 dollars for the whole thing. and the doctor didn't even blink! he thought it was a great deal. but these systems really suck. its an expensive slide show on a computer. sherwood
#17249From: MARTIN G FOSTERJun 15, 1992 10:13 PM
Sherwood, I like the laser disk idea, because you can do really nice 24-bit images and full speed animation with fast access time, but if that proves too cost-prohibitive you might consider creating flics, and using cd-rom. The mastering of these is relatively cheap and it seems to be the way to go these days, lots of games companies do it and the cd-rom drives are very inexpensive. You would just have to write the script for the front-end interactive part which should be a piece of cake for an ex-programmer. What is it all intended to show? Show results of plastic surgery? Did you know that you can get laser disc players that can be hooked up to a PC through the RS-232 port and you could write the interface to control the presentation. This way you could make you master discs and if any changes need to be made you just change the interface program (unless the animations change). These laser disk players might be a little more than the silo type, I don't know (maybe $800 – $1000?) but would allow a lot of flexibility. Let us know what happens, we care. <g> Martin Martin
#17260From: Robert C. SeiwertJun 16, 1992 8:17 AM
YES! All you need is a service that masters laserdisk. Also you need 2 mins of bars before your animation. I generally use 1/2 min and had a problem with one of my client's services.
#17279From: sherwood egbertJun 16, 1992 10:55 AM
can you tell me the approximate cost of these services. thanks sherwood