CompuServe Thread

GPFax

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#103426From: Clark WilliamsJun 10, 1993 11:31 AM
Randy, When you say you did not install the Gpfax.driver, did you place the gpfax.driver into DEVS:Printers, and then select PRT option from OPTIONS on the GPFAX options list? Clark -|- Williams –O-o-O– Via George
#103754From: Rob BondyJun 14, 1993 10:22 AM
Hi Clark, Thanks for the tips.I had the driver in the wrong drawer…whoops. Another one for you if you don't mind…Am I correct in my belief that its the ANSWERING fax machine in a transmission that is required to start the negotiation by sending the "CNG" tones to the originating machine? I have a SUPRA FAX modem with Silent Answer (that is it is supposed to be able to detect fax tones on an incoming call and decide whether to take the fax call or ignore the voice call) but am unsure as to how it is supposed to work if my question is true. Rob Bondy …Flying through the clutter on AutoPilot in my '040
#103765From: Sean LallyJun 14, 1993 12:32 PM
Hello Rob, The silent answer somehow listens in without picking up and if it doesn't hear the correct fax tones it drops the line and if it does it picks up. -Sean
#103805From: Rob BondyJun 14, 1993 10:24 PM
Hi Sean, Well I don't know how that is possible when the ANSWERING fax machine is the one expected to genereate the fax (CNG) tone thus beginning negotiation…in this case hoew does GPFax listen when its supposed to be creating tone for the sending machine?? Rob Bondy …Flying through the Clutter on AutoPilot in my '040
#103868From: Sean LallyJun 15, 1993 5:17 PM
Rob, I don't know how it does it but it works. I would imagine that they both make tones of some kind initially. In fact after sitting here listening to a few incoming faxes I've heard a beep of some sort alternating on and off every second or so. -Sean
#103884From: gary ludwickJun 15, 1993 9:15 PM
Rob, The sending fax dials the number; and begins transmitting a CNG tone as soon as a connection is made..in other words, it begins transmitting a tone as soon as the answering machine answers. The supra modem should be snooping the line at this point; when it hears the tone, it takes over the line (disconnecting the answering machine) and sends a rapid series of "RING" signals to GPFax. (That's why GPFax should be set at least two rings above the number it takes to set off the answering machine.) GPFax then "tells" the Supra to begin transmitting it's own CNG tone. The two modems negotiate the baud rate at that point and when all it settled, GPFax and the supra begin accepting the incoming fax. The problem arises because the supra can only snoop for very brief periods between rings and it is very possible for it to miss the CNG tones from the sending fax. So, as it now stands, silent answer is a sometimes thing. Supra recognizes the problem and has promised a fix in the about-to-be-released ROM set. Sometimes it works and sometimes it don't…and that's the way it is for now. Hope this helps clear things up for you.
#103776From: Clark WilliamsJun 14, 1993 3:05 PM
Bob, Yes you are correct. However it only responds with the CNG if it hears a carrier request signal which is sent by the dialing FAX. Clark -|- Williams –O-o-O– Via George
#103806From: Rob BondyJun 14, 1993 10:24 PM
Hi Clark, In my tests (sending faxes to my number from work) the dialing fax sits there and does nothing until it hears the answering fax's tone. There is no carrier request. (PS Its Rob, not Bob.A small thing I know but…) Rob Bondy …Flying through the clutter on Autopilot in my '040
#103821From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJun 15, 1993 12:37 AM
Clark, Humm…ever dial a fax machine? They answer with a tone…even if there's no fax machine calling it. Don