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#Good Deal on VT 4000?

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#58875From: Mike ReedJun 15, 1993 5:53 PM
Looking to get a Video Toaster 4000 in a week or so. Went to my local dealer and this is what he recommended. Toaster 4000 -| Amiga 4000/040 | 18 megs RAM total | 4091 controller (SCSI II) |- $6488.00 Assemble & Test | RGB Analog monitor -| Toaster Toolbox 4000 (A external expansion box) $370 2 Time Base Correctors $1000 each 2 Time Base Corrector Remote $299 each Art Department Professional (Converts PC graphics) $299 2 small monitors $300 each TOTAL PRICE $10,353 We need to create sales videos for several of our products. We are in the waste water business so real life video is sometimes in poor taste. Animations/Walkthru of our equipment/plants would be great. Looking at 3D studio on PC and VT4000. Would like any comments. Have used POV raytracer to generate test clips to show the top brass what we have in mind. They like it, but $10,000 is a lot to spend if it does not fill the bill or will need lots of add-ons to make it really do what we want.
#58882From: Frank VanellaJun 15, 1993 7:03 PM
Your dealer is a tad on the high side (if it comes with the standard 120 meg IDE drive) compared to current prices in my neck of the woods (S.F. Bay Area CA.), but then again, you might be willing to pay extra for the support that the dealer gives. All those times you might call to ask seemingly simple questions, that aren't all that simple to a new user. Or when something doesn't perform as it should, the dealer is the first one you should call. There are many of us who shop mail order, forgetting what it's like to be a first time user. sometimes a little hand holding can be worth a lot of money, especially when you are recommending an entire system for a corporate installation. It appears that you are paying suggested retail on all the other items, so I am assuming there is no other local source to compare to. ON the plus side regarding your price; Just a short few years ago (5 or more) you would have paid 10k just for a single TBC. As far as the "Walkthrough" application; Lightwave will certainly do the job, but you might want to take a peek at a MAC package called" Walkthru" by Vertis. It's designed for archetectural interior design applications. I'm not sure if it will run under one of the Mac emulators (Emplant or AMAXXII+) but it's something to check out, even for a few ideas to use in Lightwave. Haven't tried 3-D studio on the PC, but you never know, it might run with the proposed 486 bridgeboard. Frank
#58904From: Paul ToalJun 16, 1993 3:14 AM
Doing walk thrus on the Amiga is still in it's infancy. The MAC and AutoCad on the PC are a better choice for this specific purpose. If you need to create and present videos that use a bit of walkthru features the Toaster set up as you describe is the hands down favorite. It is difficult for me to mimic the Hi-End PC walkthru software on my Toaster but nothing can handle video as Toaster can. The line to draw is on how much data you can access of already completed drawings of the plant that can be plugged into AutoCad+. If you're starting from scratch, Toaster is the tool then. You can then render the crap out of anything. If price is critical, you can get it for $8000 or less but without much dealer help or hand holding. Good luck- –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#58985From: Wayne ColeJun 17, 1993 1:39 AM
Mike, If youjust want cuts onlyand animation capability, you can wack off a lot of the list. For cost purposes: -Drop Ram to 10 Meg Fast plus2 meg chip. -Drop the 4091 and live with IDE. Take the money yousave on the controller and try to get alarger than 120 meg drive. -Get a Digital Creations Kitchen Sync, two channel TBC on one card, iwth remote and optional upgrade to SVHS. I belive they are available for about $1400. -With the above set-up you need no ToolBox. -Monitors; CBM 108x for Toaster Preveiw, (I've seen old 1084s for $159) use panasonic CT 1382 for video in monitor (about $259) and a cheap Multi-synch like a Loop monitor for the Amiga/Control monitor (CT-1458 is about $350, I think). I think you could do this for around $6500 – independent of the video decks, anyway. For TImecode editing cuts only and animation single frame control, check out Nucleus Personal Editor and Personal Single Frame Controller. (No slot solution). wmc – via Autopilot!