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#The Missing Flasher

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#47836From: Rick MillerJun 28, 1993 8:56 AM
The camcorder are just consumer grade equipment, therefore I would guess that it does not have drop frame, right? I put standard SMPTE timecode (non-drop frame) then inserted the video from the Hi8 camcorder onto the SVHS tape in the Panasonic AG7750. Shouldn't that work?
#47876From: John EllisJun 28, 1993 12:32 PM
Rick – If I read you correctly you stripped your SVHS tape with SMPTE time code which is drop-frame unless you specified otherwise. The consumer camcorder I'm assuming has the flash on it, as you are able to see it, my thoughts were with regard to the AG7750 and in what mode the SVHS tape was recorded. I think as a flash is fast, could be just one frame, and if you were recording with drop- frame on the AG7750, you would then lose it. The thing to do is an assemble edit w/o time code (just control track) to test this theory, and then check it frame by frame as you have. Also turn the TBC off and walk through the tape with the Jog control letting each frame roll up (no Dynamic Tracking.) Good Luck -JE
#48034From: Rick MillerJun 29, 1993 10:13 AM
John: >>If I read you correctly you stripped your SVHS tape with SMPTE time code which is drop-frame unless you specified otherwise.<< I did specify that the tape be stripped with Non-Drop-frame timecode. The flash was from a still camera. I was probably 50 feet in front of the camera and out of the FOV. I pointed the flash across the FOV at a moving vehicle that also had a camera located inside. I needed to know a specific point in time so that later I could tell what frame were taped at the same time. This is all for a train accident that I'm working on for an attorney. Hope this helps you to understand what the he?? I'm doing. After grabbing the frames around the areas of the flash, I could see the flash with no problem using Tips and viewing the frames on the Targa+. It was defintely on just ONE field. Regards………..Rick – Technical Animations
#48077From: John EllisJun 29, 1993 2:53 PM
Rick – Interesting use of the flash, and fascinating that is only showed up on ONE field. Should now be able to refine you technique, seems like a good solution if you can extend the duration of the flash. -JE
#48319From: Rick MillerJul 1, 1993 9:23 AM
John: Thanks for your comments and discussion. I will be able to use the video just fine, now that I can see the flash using the Targa+. Well I guess its back to work, Talk with you again later. Regards……..Rick – Technical Animations
#47894From: John EllisJun 28, 1993 2:01 PM
Rick – this missing frame thing has caught my curiousity, so I called an Editor who works in Broadcast exclusively. No definitive answer but he said even if the tape was time coded drop-frame your dub should have all the picture information, in other words you wouldn't loose a frame in the transfer. What he speculated might be the case is that the flash is happening at the field level, so you've got a 50/50 chance of seeing it when searching for it frame by frame, because actually in frame by frame you could be seeing it every other field. He too thought it bizarre! -JE