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#Corel 4 – Great Nothing

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#47989From: Gus GrubbaJun 28, 1993 11:42 PM
Somebody here was a beta tester for Corel 4 and, as far as I can remember, was pretty hot about the thing. Well, I just got the upgrade this morning and so far this has been the worse piece of software I have ever installed in my computer. Aside from the 40+ megabytes of disk space, all those stupid DOS device drivers they stick in your config.sys and autoexec.bat (occupying 65k of precious memory) when no other paint program I have does… It just doesn't work. I played with the thing for about 30 minutes and found over 30 major bugs (system lock up, garbage on the screen, scanner won't work, menus that do nothing yet available) the list goes on and on… Well, it's back in the box and out it will go UPS tomorrow… Sick, just sick…
#48004From: KYLEJun 29, 1993 12:54 AM
Just a note about r4. Must agree with you not too hot a product over 3. I havn't had any problems running it yet no lockups or crashes on anything. Maybe just a weird conflict with your system. Lots of stuff for your buck though. Don't think I could live without it (corel 3) but 4 yuck!! TTYL -KB
#48007From: ALAN IGLESIASJun 29, 1993 1:52 AM
Well, gosh, Gus — it's not my fault, really!!<g> Yeah, my 4.0 is still in the shrink wrap — my last beta version was so buggy that it was unusable, and I turn around and there it is at Egghead in full release! The Corel people told me that their "in-house" beta people had finished the job, and all was ready to go. I told them I seriously doubted it, and it sure is foolish to perpetuate Corel's reputation for releasing buggy software. As you know, they did it anyway. But, buggy as it is, it is still evidently usable on some systems by some people. I personally know of two firms that use it all day, every day, and they haven't needed to re-install 3.0 *yet*. All-in-all, I'm not gonna depend on it untill I hear about a patch or two, but I will install it soon 'cause it has some awesome features (when it doesn't bomb), great for 3DS users. One of which is the contour operation, which simplifies the creation of beveled text, and the new fractal-based texture-generator is quite awesome too, if a little slow. Hopfully they will get the messege that feature-laden software is pretty usless if it is full of bugs. -Alan Iglesias
#48109From: alec jasonJun 29, 1993 6:03 PM
Alan, If anyone wants to know about the bugs in Corel 4.0, just take a stroll over to the Corel forum and read through the hundreds of complaint messages. Its pretty viscious . . . One thing I noticed with 4.0 was that after spending 40 minutes trying to find the manual's section on their new OCR program — there is no mention of it in any of the docs. It is clearly listed on the product box and in their ads but not in the docs or in the program's help index. After a long, long time I was able to call Corel and found that they "forgot" to include a section on the OCR in the docs — although the program is there: hidden in the Trace module. The consensus among the heavy users is that the Corel 4.0 ship date was forced to coincide with their stockholder's meeting. Alec Jason
#48286From: ALAN IGLESIASJun 30, 1993 11:10 PM
Really. Unfortunately is would seem that the stockholder thing (or something like it) has got to be the reason behind the obviously early release. Maybe one day the people who stand to make (or lose) the most money in a situation like this will also have the foresight to identify a potentially explosive situation and think about quality and *it's* relationship to sales as opposed to beating the Jones' or whatever their deadline was all about. Yeah, those guys on the Corel forum are pretty upset. You shoulda' heard 'em when Corel announced the original upgrade price! -Alan
#48464From: Ana Francisca GervasJul 2, 1993 10:47 AM
I am amazed with this corel 4.0 thread. They forget to put the OCR in the docs?????? They have tell the mags, in the CorelDraw! 4.0 presentation, that they are going to release a new version each year…but with this problems, who will buy it? I'm happy with the 3.0 and with their CorelSCSI package (which I think to be really good) but this 4.0 problems really astonish me. And then you hear people complaining about Windows bugs…he! Ana
#48190From: Don LandisJun 30, 1993 9:07 AM
Alan: I've been a Corel user since 1.2 and have yet to upgrade to 4.0. I talked to the Corel people at Comdex which was hard to do because they didn't even have a booth???? Does this indicate financial problems at Corel? Anyway, back to the tech stuff. I am considering upgrading until I hear all this bug stuff, I really wanted the upgrade to acquire the purportedly expanded clipart library on CD-rom. How much better is it than 3.0 CD? Also, one feature Corel draw seems to lack is the ability to join more than one set of nodes in an object at once by selecting a selection in pairs process. You know, if your outline is broken in more than one place you have to manually re-outline the object to correct this situation. This happens alot when corel tracing a scanned piece and attempting to separate and edit the objects. 40 Megabyte to install? Guess I'll check out another 1 gig drive too.<g>
#48287From: ALAN IGLESIASJun 30, 1993 11:10 PM
I really haven't been in as close touch with Corel as I used to. My old contact, Vivi Nichol, has been promoted to "boss of all tech people" or some such. Knowing her, this must be a complete nightmare for her. I wish her the best as she was a great person to know and talk to about computer graphics. .So I don't have a clue about thier problems, really. Alec's suggestion is probably closest to the truth 'cause nothing else seems to make much sense. I don't know that pressure from Adobe, Aldus, or even Gold Disk(?) is particularly high right now, but I feel they really should start putting quality releases ahead of gobs of features, etc. -Alan
#48370From: Don LandisJul 1, 1993 2:05 PM
Agreed! I really was shocked at Comdex after searching for their booth and only finding a lady with a Corel badge standing next to a wall. She told me Corel decided not to have a booth this year. This was shocking to me because Canada was the honored country at Comdex. Something's up.
#48379From: ALAN IGLESIASJul 1, 1993 3:27 PM
Wow! Hmmmmmm….makes ya think, don't it? -Alan
#48402From: Gus GrubbaJul 1, 1993 7:34 PM
It does, eh, it realy does, eh…