#Rendering -> VTR
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Hi,
I have two animations (5 sec. each) that I need to "put to" tape (Sony Betacam
SP). How much is usually charged for this service? Who offers this type
service?
Any help will be appreciated.
D. Abarca
Hi, Daniel. I run a video edit suite in Vancouver, BC., where I put stuff to
tape all the time. In Vancouver, there are a couple of places that offer the
service, usually at an hourly rate. check your local listings for a suite that
offers the service. Worse comes to worse, send me mail back, and maybe you can
uload your anim's to me and we can work something out.
Good luck,
Adam Stern
Adam,
Here in Puerto Rico nobody is offering that service. This is my first project,
and I have to quote it by Monday. I would be sending a tape backup with the TGA
files. I need a ball-park figure of how much it would to cost to put it to tape
(Betacam SP). I am looking for someone (pref. in the US) that specializes in
this type of service.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
D. Abarca
If you can put the .tgas on Exabyte then per frame costs should be in the
neighborhood of $.15 – $.20, or on DAT just a few cents more expensive.
The best method to do this is to convert the .tgas to YUV frames using the
Abekas driver from ASDG, which will back the frames onto Exabyte tape.
Otherwise you could just back them onto DAT using a TAR program like PCTAR
(available as freeware/shareware in the UNIX forum), and the conversion can be
done at the video post house. If you would like some names of reputable,
high-end video post houses that offer this service (they typically use Abekas
real-time playback digital disk recorders), let me know.
John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
I am a "first timer" so I am pretty much lost on what you said. I was thinking
of backing the TGA files onto a QIC compatible tape back up. Am I close?
Thanks,
D. Abarca
The problem with QIC is that it is horribly slow. I don't know of any high-end
video post houses that gladly use QIC (or even have it, for that matter). The
thing about the post houses that use the Abekas DDR for recording to BetaSP is
that they easily beat the cost of most BetaSP single framers out there. But
you need to supply the image files on a better medium.
The top choice is backing onto Exabyte 8mm using the "Abekas Driver" from ASDG.
This windows software will take your individual rgb frames (.tga, for instance,
uses rgb color) and convert them to YUV, which is what the Abekas uses. then
back them onto the Exabyte 8mm tape. Exabyte is a company that makes 8mm
helical scan tape cartridge systems (tape backup). They are fairly expensive..
mine cost over $2000.
DAT (digital audio tape) is also acceptable, but there are a variety of DATs
out there, and not all DATs can read each other's data. If you plan on using
DAT, you may want to make a test tape to send ahead of time, so the facility
can determine whether they can pull the data off correctly. You'll most likely
need to use a UNIX TARchive, because the Abekas is a UNIX device. You'll find
PCTAR and ASPITAPE as shareware in the UNIX forum here on Compuserve. I would
check with the facility you plan on using before deciding which format you need
on tape. They may have a popular DAT tape backup software, and you could use
that instead (more user freindly than PCTAR and ASPITAPE).
In any case, you'll get the absolute best quality possible using the
Abekas-to-BetaSP route, at the lowest cost. This is because it is a quick
procedure. The Abekas can play your animation back in real time, whereas
single framing usually ties machines up for 12-20 seconds per frame. At $200
hour for a typical Beta SP edit suite, that's a pretty big savings!
John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
Thank you for the info.
D. Abarca
Daniel, I'm not actually sure what going US rates are. Wish I could help you
there…
Adam
I appreciate the help. Thanks
D. Abarca