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#Rendering -> VTR

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#108477From: Daniel AbarcaJun 18, 1994 5:32 PM
Hi, I have two animations (5 sec. each) that I need to "put to" tape (Sony Betacam SP). How much is usually charged for this service? Who offers this type service? Any help will be appreciated. D. Abarca
#108488From: Adam L. SternJun 18, 1994 7:33 PM
Hi, Daniel. I run a video edit suite in Vancouver, BC., where I put stuff to tape all the time. In Vancouver, there are a couple of places that offer the service, usually at an hourly rate. check your local listings for a suite that offers the service. Worse comes to worse, send me mail back, and maybe you can uload your anim's to me and we can work something out. Good luck, Adam Stern
#108570From: Daniel AbarcaJun 19, 1994 4:53 PM
Adam, Here in Puerto Rico nobody is offering that service. This is my first project, and I have to quote it by Monday. I would be sending a tape backup with the TGA files. I need a ball-park figure of how much it would to cost to put it to tape (Betacam SP). I am looking for someone (pref. in the US) that specializes in this type of service. Any ideas? Thanks, D. Abarca
#108588From: John TissavaryJun 19, 1994 6:28 PM
If you can put the .tgas on Exabyte then per frame costs should be in the neighborhood of $.15 – $.20, or on DAT just a few cents more expensive. The best method to do this is to convert the .tgas to YUV frames using the Abekas driver from ASDG, which will back the frames onto Exabyte tape. Otherwise you could just back them onto DAT using a TAR program like PCTAR (available as freeware/shareware in the UNIX forum), and the conversion can be done at the video post house. If you would like some names of reputable, high-end video post houses that offer this service (they typically use Abekas real-time playback digital disk recorders), let me know. John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#108603From: Daniel AbarcaJun 19, 1994 11:07 PM
I am a "first timer" so I am pretty much lost on what you said. I was thinking of backing the TGA files onto a QIC compatible tape back up. Am I close? Thanks, D. Abarca
#108607From: John TissavaryJun 19, 1994 11:48 PM
The problem with QIC is that it is horribly slow. I don't know of any high-end video post houses that gladly use QIC (or even have it, for that matter). The thing about the post houses that use the Abekas DDR for recording to BetaSP is that they easily beat the cost of most BetaSP single framers out there. But you need to supply the image files on a better medium. The top choice is backing onto Exabyte 8mm using the "Abekas Driver" from ASDG. This windows software will take your individual rgb frames (.tga, for instance, uses rgb color) and convert them to YUV, which is what the Abekas uses. then back them onto the Exabyte 8mm tape. Exabyte is a company that makes 8mm helical scan tape cartridge systems (tape backup). They are fairly expensive.. mine cost over $2000. DAT (digital audio tape) is also acceptable, but there are a variety of DATs out there, and not all DATs can read each other's data. If you plan on using DAT, you may want to make a test tape to send ahead of time, so the facility can determine whether they can pull the data off correctly. You'll most likely need to use a UNIX TARchive, because the Abekas is a UNIX device. You'll find PCTAR and ASPITAPE as shareware in the UNIX forum here on Compuserve. I would check with the facility you plan on using before deciding which format you need on tape. They may have a popular DAT tape backup software, and you could use that instead (more user freindly than PCTAR and ASPITAPE). In any case, you'll get the absolute best quality possible using the Abekas-to-BetaSP route, at the lowest cost. This is because it is a quick procedure. The Abekas can play your animation back in real time, whereas single framing usually ties machines up for 12-20 seconds per frame. At $200 hour for a typical Beta SP edit suite, that's a pretty big savings! John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#108651From: Daniel AbarcaJun 20, 1994 8:37 AM
Thank you for the info. D. Abarca
#108734From: Adam L. SternJun 20, 1994 3:00 PM
Daniel, I'm not actually sure what going US rates are. Wish I could help you there… Adam
#108769From: Daniel AbarcaJun 20, 1994 7:42 PM
I appreciate the help. Thanks D. Abarca