CompuServe Thread

#Internet access

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#170976From: James FranssenMay 19, 1995 3:19 PM
I know this is not the internet forum, but I am posting here because I think the reply will be more non-biased than if I place it in the internet forum. How does an entity get access to the internet? For instance, how does Compuserve get access to the internet in order to provide it as a service to you and me? Why is it not possible to connect my PC into the internet without going through a service? Thanks. -James Franssen
#171031From: James Coulter[Mindscape]May 20, 1995 3:07 AM
> Why is it not possible to connect my PC into the internet without going through a service? < Anyone can connect to the internet directly, provided they have the knowledge and dollars to do it. The prime criteria is the installation of a fiber-optic connection to the nearest domain server. You'll have to pay for all the cabling and installation. Needless to say, this is prohibitively expensive. Services allow users to connect to their server via modem, which in turn uses their fiber connection to the rest of the net. Fun networking buzzword: BIFF: Backhoe induced fiber failure. (I witnessed these first hand during my days at WMU).
#171062From: James FranssenMay 20, 1995 2:21 PM
>> Anyone can connect to the internet directly, provided they have the knowledge and dollars to do it. The prime criteria is the installation of a fiber-optic connection to the nearest domain server. << Thanks for the reply James! Is there a list anywhere that would tell me where the fiber-optic lines that already exist are? I mean, could I go down to my local utility service and ask for a map to see where a good location may be to place a server? And also, what would it take to connect a PC to a line like this, or would I need a SGI Crimson, or something of this sort? Thanks.
#171094From: David J. MarksMay 20, 1995 7:25 PM
>> could I go down to my local utility service… You'd probably need to call a telecommunications consultant and plan on -THOUSANDS- of dollars for hardware and a data grade transmission line hookup. If you are looking for a "home page" of your own, many providers will do it for you at around $100 per month. To simply get on-line, check out INETNEW forum (I think) for info about CIS access to the net, or buy one of the off-the-shelf net kits and call a local service provider. (I'd guess that this is comparable in cost or slightly more than compuserve.)
#171207From: James Coulter[Mindscape]May 22, 1995 1:47 AM
> Is there a list anywhere that would tell me where the fiber-optic lines that already exist are? < I'm sure there is, but I haven't a clue where you would find it. > I mean, could I go down to my local utility service and ask for a map to see where a good location may be to place a server? < Not likely. Since the network is international, you'll probably need to contact a much larger organization. I know that the Michigan extention of internet is called Michnet. You may have one for your state too. These folks could probably point you in the right direction for a hookup. > And also, what would it take to connect a PC to a line like this, or would I need a SGI Crimson, or something of this sort? < The server doesn't matter. The connection equipment does matter. The simplist communications hardware would probably run about $10K. Besides that, you'll need permission from your city to install the cabling – a major nightmare. We're talking about taking a backhoe through neighboring properties to lay in a fiber cable. Maintaining such a connection can cost in the thousands per month. If you're serious about becoming your own domain site, I'd check with your local big university for recommendations on how to proceed. Like technicolor, my knowledge of the subject "ends here". <bg>
#171469From: PARR & ASSOCIATESMay 23, 1995 11:56 AM
Hello, I don't know what everyone here is talking about! I am an electro-optics engineer and were involved in projects at the inception of the net. You DO NOT have to have a fiber connection. You do have to have a provider connection. It is also expensive. But, if you're looking to become a provider or have net access for youron! E-mail me if you have questions.