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#3D studio locks up

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#174037From: Caleb JanusJun 6, 1995 8:51 PM
I am running the educational (hardware locked) version of 3D studio V.4, recently upgraded from V. 3. Hardware: Comtrade Pentium 90, 32MB ram, Diamond Stealth video card, Summagraphics 12×12 "FX" tablet, DPS PAR board & TBC IV video capture board. Problem: In 3D studio, at irregular intervals and for no apparent reason, the system suddenly hangs up, and will not accept any input – forcing me to reboot and lose any work that was not saved. This does not seem to have anything to do with what I am doing in 3D Studio – if I simply go into the program and let it sit for a few minutes, it will almost invariably hang. This also was a problem with version 3, although it only affected input from the digitizer, whereas now it affects the keyboard as well. It does not occur in any other software – including a locked version of Autocad 13 (running in Windows). I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to correct this problem. thanks
#174285From: T-Spect LeJun 8, 1995 5:47 AM
I know that someone will give you that nominal "virus attack" on your system (especially fr. ADesk reps). That I don't think here in this case. Perhaps your parallel port speed is set too high. Try setting it normal to see it if locks up. Other than that, it's quite an unusual problem. Try to get a totally new partition or any extra SCSI-2 hd and make a new boot disk w/ only needed items. This will help better to track down the culprit.
#174321From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Jun 8, 1995 9:46 AM
Hi Caleb, << ..hangs.. >> Title: Clean system boot; diagnostics for memory conflict… Description: To confirm that the problem is caused by a memory conflict, re-start the computer with simplified settings (a 'stripped system') and see if the problem goes away. For DOS-only computers, a stripped system means that the computer is rebooted without terminate and stay resident (TSR) programs nor device drivers that are not absolutely necessary for the operation of the operating system and computer. The Autodesk program should also be configured for VGA display if possible, to rule out display driver conflicts. To reboot into a stripped system for 3D Studio and Animator Pro, change the system files as follows: CONFIG.SYS should contain only: FILES=40 BUFFERS=20 AUTOEXEC.BAT should contain only: PATH=<your path> PROMPT=<your prompt> You may want to use the DOS SYS command to create a bootable floppy for this trouble-shooting exercise and place these simplified system files on the diskette. Or, you may edit the existing CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files currently on the hard disk (make back-up copies first). Make sure you have a bootable DOS floppy on hand, just in case the computer has trouble rebooting. Note: Quarterdeck QEMM users may find it helpful to review the QEMM trouble-shooting documentation and use the Analyze utility to track down memory conflicts. Trouble-shooting: If the program now operates correctly, the next step is to determine which program or driver in your system files is causing the conflict. Edit the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, adding one device driver or TSR command at a time, rebooting, and starting 3D Studio/AAPRO until the error reappears. When the error happens, the last item you added to the configuration is probably the trouble maker. Once we know which drivers are conflicting, we can determine the proper course of action. If you are using special display adapters (for example, a Targa frame buffer), you should check the documentation that came with the display driver to see if special memory settings or EMS exclusions are needed.
#175122From: Caleb JanusJun 13, 1995 9:35 AM
I have narrowed the problem down to the EMM386 memory manager. With it rem-ed out of the config.sys, 3DS does not lock up anymore. In the 3DS instalation guide, it gives a suggestion for how to configure the EMM386 so that it will work with 3DS – the line recomended is "DEVICE=EMM386.EXE xxxx RAM ON". xxxx is the amount of extended memory minus 1024 kb. The DOS 6.22 manual says this can be a maximum of 32768. This system has 48 MB of ram, so I cannot follow this exactly. With EMM386 configured with the maximum allowed value of xxxx (32768), it still locked up. The config.sys file reads: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:ON /V (DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 32768 RAM ON) DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER DOS=HIGH,UMB STACKS=9,256 BUFFERS=15,0 FILES=40 LASTDRIVE=Z FCBS=4,0 SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /P DEVICEHIGH /L:1,4560 =C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS [a number of device drivers ] [(CD, soundcard, scanner) ] [loaded with the DEVICEHIGH command – ] [memory locations set using "MEMMAKER" ] Question – how to configure the EMM386 to work with 3DS – or is it ok to not load it up at all? We are also running Autocad 13 under Windows for Workgroups 3.11 – what are its requirements for memory management? (Is EMM386 necessary for Windows in Enhanced mode?) How will we have to reconfigure the various drivers? – can the "DEVICEHIGH" command to load drivers into upper memory be used without the EMM386? Thanks. Caleb
#175834From: Sherer Design AssociatesJun 16, 1995 8:30 PM
I've had good luck with the line: "device=c:\dos\emm386.exe 384 noems" Also you might want to take out all of the "L:/" switches. Those have been a source of problems for other programs as well as 3ds. …Earl
#175942From: Caleb JanusJun 17, 1995 9:37 PM
Thanks, Earl. Caleb