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#Ah – Venice Beach!

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#176764From: david W. mennenohJun 22, 1995 6:20 PM
Hi Sanford, I doubt you'll be seeing anything from me on the reel this year. I did send in a few and I'm hoping but I'm not counting on it. No real cool IPAS stuff anyways. Next year. This year I sent in stuff from my first demo reel, which I just completed last week. I'm very pleased with it but it's not the most complicated imagery ever done, that's for sure. I live in Milwaukee, WI. It's a pretty good marked for CGI stuff, but definately not too sophisticated. I did my demo tape with what I thought people would pay for. Nothing else really. So, of course there's a bunch of logos, some character work, pretty much a little of everything. I'm really hoping people like it. I'm planning on mailing out 50 in the next couple of weeks. After that I'll have to quit my job and become fulltime on my own. Pretty scary, really. That weekly paycheck really has something going for it, even though it is rather skimpy. So, off I go with fingers crossed and dream in mind. <BG> DM
#176781From: John EllisJun 22, 1995 8:31 PM
Ah… excuse me, but what does this have to do with Byte 3D articles? <BG> John
#176936From: david W. mennenohJun 23, 1995 1:56 PM
Good one! <BG> Made me smile. I see you moved it though. Thanks. I would have done it myself but I'm still in practice mode, so Anne might slap my hand. <G> I'm still trying to come to better terms on what to do with your projector light trick. I'm finally starting to get some ideas. I'm usually not this slow, it's just hard thinking in layers sometimes. I've been using Photoshop to better visualize matte effects lately. The layer masking is a nice feature for this. Anyway, take care. DM
#176977From: John EllisJun 23, 1995 5:30 PM
>>… so Anne might slap my hand. <g> << Both of us, if we don't stop fooling around. <G> (Actually, she must have moved it… because I didn't… ;^) oh well… the heading changed too… >> I'm still trying to come to better terms on what to do with your projector light trick… << Well I don't know quite what to say about that… its just adds another layer of visual complexity where it really isn't… you can do stuff in Photoshop but if its over a series of frames you're going to need to animate them yourself… with the projector light and this technique, you can do quite a few levels of builds very quickly with dramatic effect… its certainly not the only way, but a fairly easy way to accomplish the task with a fair amount of control… not to mention that in combinations you get a rather elusive effect that would be difficult to keep a handle on in PhotoShop even with only five layers over 15 frames… that would be comparable to 5 lights fadeing in and out… and easy scenario in 3DS… Besides which it has a really nice effect… soft edges and all which would more complicated to reproduce over many frames… QFX could handle it better because its got batch capability but still… I use them both so… you can consider it one more relatively simple effect much like KPT Gradient for 3DS is easier to use than the standard version in Windows because you can apply it over a series of frames… As for Venice Beach… I'm seriously considering it… I think I'd blend in with scenery. <g> John
#177005From: Anne BrownJun 23, 1995 8:05 PM
John and David – No slaps! Take5 is the place to talk about whatever you want as long as it isn't illegal, immoral or fattening <G> I see those skateboarders in movies or TV on Venice Beach boardwalk and think what a life – as I go shovel more snow or throw a few more logs on the fire. Anne
#177031From: John EllisJun 23, 1995 10:23 PM
Anne, >> as long as it isn't illegal, immoral or fattening. <g> << I guess that pretty much leaves out any discussion on the best chocolate chip cookie recipes… I'm bummed. <g> Isn't that like the basic diet of the well healed animator?! That and Hagen Daz Chocolate ice cream? <G> Hey its better than what the tv production crews would eat… Hostess cupcakes and Pink Sno Cones with Pepsi… for breakfast! Bet you think I'm kidding? <g> Well sort of… but I won't go into what the alternatives were. <BG> As far as Venice beach goes, its got possiblities… the reality of that life is quite a bit different than one might imagine, I think… How different I'm not sure… I've got a condo here to sell, and projects to keep me busy through summer… but at some point a move to L.A. seems like an inevitable thing to have happen… Venice beach strikes me as good a place as any… (well Malibu but who can afford it… <g>) The question I suppose is… when? And I don't know, I'm not there yet. 🙂 John
#177086From: Anne BrownJun 24, 1995 10:21 AM
John – I'm sure my view of California is colored by David Lee Roth videos <G> and envy at the good weather. I hope to get out to Autodesk U this fall for a return visit to San Franciso. Last time was about 15 years ago. Got up to the redwoods just north of SF and had a great time in Sausalito walking around. Dream one day of flying into LA and then driving the coast up to Vancouver. Maybe we will win the lottery tonight. Doesn't everyone start off the day with a Diet Coke? sounds normal to me. Anne
#177106From: John EllisJun 24, 1995 3:29 PM
>> Got up to the redwoods just north of SF… Marin is neat… but its changed alot. My folks still live there, but I don't get up as often as I should… I think I've finally outgrown it, if that makes any sense… Muir Woods for instance looms large in my mind, but in fact its a fairly small Redwood Forest… actually all of So. Marin is in miniature, even Mt Tam, but it didn't seem that way growing up… it remind me of hobit land now. <g> Especially with Mill Valley at the base… I guess that's why Tolkein was popular in those days… though I never got into it… seemed too fairy tale at the time… irony of ironies. <g> Hope you do get a chance to visit ADESK U. so you can check it all out once again… John
#177797From: Dennis GoodJun 29, 1995 11:14 AM
You can keep Venice Beach, and everything that goes with the LA monstrosity. I've settled for San Diego, where the term "rush hour" is accurately descriptive, the people are nice, the air is breatheable, the men are strong, the women are good-looking, and the children are above average! But, I still like to go to Disneyland.
#177850From: Anne BrownJun 29, 1995 4:32 PM
.. and the Zoo is great and Balboa Park is fun and the aviary at the zoo out past Miramar is incredible and where else can you find an Irish pub serving Mexican food? Enjoyed San Diego a lot but a few too many people for me. And why doesn't anyone ever take their boats out. These $200K sailboats just sitting in the marinas to have cocktail parties on. her in Maine we sail them hard fo rthe few days possible <G> But no good Mexican food in sight. Anne
#177880From: John EllisJun 29, 1995 9:03 PM
Anne, >>… and the Zoo is great and Balboa Park is fun… << San Diego is nice, no doubt about it… for lots of reasons but Venice Beach is calling… I may not like it but nothing ventured… nothing ventured. <G> Isn't that right? 🙂 (We keep this up and you may move out here. <BG>) John
#177908From: James BieblJun 30, 1995 12:24 AM
Anne >> But no good Mexican food in sight Incomprehensible! A fate worse than….. Still, Maine in the summer….. Tough call. JB
#177928From: John EllisJun 30, 1995 4:13 AM
>> Still, Maine in the summer…. Tough call. << I don't know about Maine but New Hampshire was awesome! You could see stars like the heavens bowed down and brushed your forehead… absolutely incredible… and the lakes were pristine and the trees and the mountains, just fantastic… yeah Jim you gotta point, besides I was just teasing Anne, she wouldn't wanta leave… ALL THAT LOBSTER!!! <BG> John
#177949From: Ted BoardmanJun 30, 1995 8:30 AM
>> But no good Mexican food in sight. Anne, I'll bet you can't find Finnan Haddie in San Diego, either<G> TedB -Ted Boardman !^NavFont01F0007MGJHG5BA8C6
#178045From: Dennis GoodJun 30, 1995 7:19 PM
Ah ! The bane of living too far North. You go past Salinas, and real Mexican food disappears. In February, we had two weeks of clear weather, and we had our pool up 85 deg.! Floating in the sunshine, eating oranges off a tree . . . life is too tough down here. Living in lotus land, chanting a mantra – looking forward to seeing you all at the Biltmore. . .
#177971From: David J. MarksJun 30, 1995 10:50 AM
>> best chocolate chip cookie recipes… I'm bummed. <g> Isn't that like >> the basic diet of the well healed animator?! That and Hagen Daz >> Chocolate ice cream? <G> Actually, I prefer brownies (extra fudgy and a little sticky) and Ben & Jerry's Cookie Dough Ice cream! (At Siggraph, you'll likely notice the too many inches created around my waist! <g>) Don't forget the IV of steaming hot coffee… – Dave
#178002From: John EllisJun 30, 1995 1:03 PM
Hi David, Haven't touched base with you in awhile… I can handle the extra fudgy as long as it comes with a tall glass of milk, and the IV of coffee is constantly on brew… so we're totally sympatico there… <g> My metabolism burns this stuff like rocket fuel… but I'm not so sure that's a good thing either… Either way, I'm sure the offerings will be high octane. <G> John
#178008From: David J. MarksJun 30, 1995 1:43 PM
>> Haven't touched base with you in awhile… Quite a while… I look forward to meeting you at Siggraph. Let me buy you a cup of coffee – or something a little stronger, as thanks for your help a couple of years ago. Man how time flies… – Dave
#178018From: John EllisJun 30, 1995 2:23 PM
David, It'll be nice to meet you as well…, time does fly… its crazy too. <g> I still have my EVO… I just play with it mostly. Did you ever sell your's I remember you had one with the rgb card… they make a great home unit about as good as it gets. 🙂 >> Let me buy you a cup of coffee… That would be great… and strong enough too. Thanks, I'll look forward to it… John And have a great 4th… I'm outta here for what looks to be a beautiful weekend!
#178056From: David J. MarksJun 30, 1995 9:25 PM
>> Did you ever sell your's I remember you had one with the rgb card… >> they make a great home unit about as good as it gets. 🙂 Still have BOTH. I was hoping to use the additional cash toward a PAR or other disk-based recording system, but there is really no market for the decks as used equipment. Besides, my finished product has been excellent (given the majority of clients we work with — engineering types.) As my experience grows, I just expect better and better quality from myself. I posted for sale messages on two different occassions, and had one "nibble". A problem as I see it, is the high cost of "routine maintenance". Getting it overhauled after 1800 hours cost nearly a grand. >> And have a great 4th… Thanks!! The Special Olympics World Games are 10 minutes from here in New Haven. As part of the celebration, there will be a huge fireworks display and Tall Ships parade through the harbor. It's probably the most excitement Connecticut has seen in decades… Enjoy your long weekend. – Dave
#176812From: sanford kennedyJun 23, 1995 12:26 AM
David, I wish you all the best luck. Funny thing about IPAS's….most of the customers in L.A. want particle stuff and photo-real cloud and electricity effects. The market here seems to want all the cool stuff and they don't much ask for logos ( from me.) Maybe because I don't have any on my reel? (g) Sanford